[Help Thread] 5x5x5 Discussion

[Deleted member 19792]

OK, for 5x5 edges I use the freeslice method. I'm okay at it, but my lookahead and last 4 tredges sucks. I use a shengshou 5x5. How do I look ahead for building the first 8 tredges? I just intuitively do the last four edges without any routine.

I normally hold some tredges at the top and wait to use them. Other than that, for last 4, i organize it into one layer then work on putting them together there, making sure no centers are separated.

 

[Dene]

So which is better, AvG or freeslice?

Both can be very fast. I'm not aware of any of the current top 5x5 cubers using AvG nowadays, but that doesn't really mean anything.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

I avg like 3:30 (so slow). My splits are like 1:10-1:35-0:45. What should I improve and how to improve it?

 

[aceofspades98]

I avg like 3:30 (so slow). My splits are like 1:10-1:35-0:45. What should I improve and how to improve it?

Practice, 5x5 is just raw practice.

 

[uberCuber]

Practice, 5x5 is just raw practice.

^ this. Take it from somebody who can average ~1:15 with both redux and yau5 (and still improving), I did nothing special to get to this point, just several thousand solves. I don't even know every single L2E case ;_;

 

[TheNextFeliks]

^ this. Take it from somebody who can average ~1:15 with both redux and yau5 (and still improving), I did nothing special to get to this point, just several thousand solves. I don't even know every single L2E case ;_;

Really? I'll just do like 50 solves tomorrow.

 

[uberCuber]

Really? I'll just do like 50 solves tomorrow.

Just make sure you're paying attention while doing your solves. The fastest bigcubers aren't lying when they say that most of the cool tricks they know were picked up in regular solving.

Force yourself to turn really slowly; burst turning will do you absolutely no good (2 TPS over the whole solve is plenty for a sub-2 minute average with a reasonable movecount; 3 TPS would put you near my speed). Actively watch for shortcuts during centers. Take chances with potential 'tricks' even if you aren't sure if they'll work; at your speed, the time lost in the solve by such a trick failing is no big deal, and you'll learn something useful whether it works or not. Over time, shoot for your movecount for all 6 centers to be in the 60's every time (yes I know I said I basically just did a lot of solves, but every once in awhile stopping to do a few centers slow-solves to count your moves and check your efficiency isn't at all a bad idea).

Similarly, make an active effort to turn really slow and look ahead during edge pairing. Once again, burst turning does you absolutely no good here. After pairing up a tredge, don't just store it away and then start looking for the next edge you want to use; rather, do not remove the edge from the M/E slices (whichever you use to pair) until you have found the next edge to work on, and make sure that when you do remove the completed tredge to store it away, you do so in such a way that you bring another piece for your next tredge into the M/E layers at the same time. Save moves by giving yourself a lead on the next tredge at the same time as storing the previous one; don't put yourself into the bad habit of wasting a lot of extra moves just because your lookahead wasn't successful enough.

For L4E, don't worry about trying to get into a specific system, because the cases can just be so different. You simply have to get used to this step; you will gradually figure it out for yourself. There isn't much anyone can say about this step without just showing a bunch of examples.

So, like I said, just keep solving, but make sure that solving isn't completely mindless, and you will improve quite fast.

 

[PeelingStickers]

Very nice tips thankyou very much

I did about 50 solves yesterday and my times dropped from about 2:10 average to 2:00 flat with some sub 2 averages of 5.

Practice is all you need I believe.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

What should my splits be to average sub-3? I average 35 seconds for 3x3 stage

 

[Meep]

What should my splits be to average sub-3? I average 35 seconds for 3x3 stage

There aren't really any numbers for what your splits 'should' be, 'cause even at sub-1 the splits can be very different between solvers. Centers are probably the easiest to improve, whereas edges have the biggest room for improvement. Instead of worrying about these specific numbers, you should just keep solving it until you average sub-3, really. Simply doing solves will tend to improve each stage, especially when averaging around 3 minutes.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

There aren't really any numbers for what your splits 'should' be, 'cause even at sub-1 the splits can be very different between solvers. Centers are probably the easiest to improve, whereas edges have the biggest room for improvement. Instead of worrying about these specific numbers, you should just keep solving it until you average sub-3, really. Simply doing solves will tend to improve each stage, especially when averaging around 3 minutes.

Okay. More solves.

 

[fall]

5x5 help

hey im new to the 5x5 (just got one for christmas) and i was wondering if there were any good guides out there of how to solve it. I searched already and didn't find anything useful

 

[Antonie faz fan]

Hey guys i have a question would someone mind answeing them?
I avg around 1.40.00 on 5x5 but i have a problem. At edge pairing i have hard times recognizing other than white and yellow pieces so what do i do? Do i practise recognision on the other edges or do i stick with what i am doing and get faster at that?

 

[Dene]

hey im new to the 5x5 (just got one for christmas) and i was wondering if there were any good guides out there of how to solve it. I searched already and didn't find anything useful

Bigcubes

Hey guys i have a question would someone mind answeing them?
I avg around 1.40.00 on 5x5 but i have a problem. At edge pairing i have hard times recognizing other than white and yellow pieces so what do i do? Do i practise recognision on the other edges or do i stick with what i am doing and get faster at that?

Do you deliberately use the technique of doing the 8 white and yellow edges first (I assume freeslice)? If so, in my opinion this is a good technique, and I use it, so I'd recommend sticking with it. If you're not happy with that, try finding another colour that you find easily recognisable. For example, sometimes I'll go for all the red edges first, as this colour often sticks out to me (sometimes blue too, although never green or orange).

 

[Antonie faz fan]

Thanks dene

 

[magneticman245]

5x5 Tredge Solution?

I'm learning how to solve the 5x5 cube and can't find any tutorials that explain how to form the tredges in an easy-to-understand way. Does anyone know of a tutorial that does this? If so it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Username]

I find This one pretty good

 

[pipkiksass]

I'm learning how to solve the 5x5 cube and can't find any tutorials that explain how to form the tredges in an easy-to-understand way. Does anyone know of a tutorial that does this? If so it would be greatly appreciated.

Someone did a free-slice tutorial recently, try YouTube searching for it? I'm mobile or I'd do it for you and link it, sorry!

 

[mark49152]

Someone did a free-slice tutorial recently, try YouTube searching for it? I'm mobile or I'd do it for you and link it, sorry!

Convinsa did one - I'm also mobile or I'd link it

 

[magneticman245]

Thank you all so much this helped me loads, I've solved my 5x5 before using a modified 4x4 cage method but the parity was terrible, it was really slow, and I found reduction so hard to learn. The free-slicing method is brilliant, again thank you!