[Help Thread] 3x3 Cross Help and Discussion

[bluesk1]

Yeah, do what he said. Your goal should be to get cross down to maybe 2 seconds

 

[kelsar]

Hey. What do you think about this metod of training cross?
- make the scramble
- inspection in given fixed time (for example 10 - 30s)
- rotate cube to basic position (for example white center on bottom, green center on front)
- make in memory list of moves to solving cross and write on a sheet of paper (or in a favorite text editor )
- make these moves as fast as you can

 

[MoyuFTW]

Hey. What do you think about this metod of training cross?
- make the scramble
- inspection in given fixed time (for example 10 - 30s)
- rotate cube to basic position (for example white center on bottom, green center on front)
- make in memory list of moves to solving cross and write on a sheet of paper (or in a favorite text editor )
- make these moves as fast as you can

Don't set an inspection time. Take all the time you need to find the moves. tbh, I don't really think of a series of letter turns in my head, I see how the pieces move, and know how I want it to get there... ish

Just think about it, don't really do the actual R U F etc

 

[CubingForLife]

how can i quickly transition from cross to f2l?

 

[shadowslice e]

how can i quickly transition from cross to f2l?

Just track some pairs or anything other than the cross you are solving so that you automatically know what you will do when you solve the cross.

 

[Goosly]

Since you planned your cross, you know which moves you'll do. While inspecting, try to find an F2L-piece which will not move a lot during the building of the cross, and then track the corresponding F2L-piece so you immediately know where those 2 pieces are and you can solve that pair first.

If you're not able to do this on a certain scramble (for example when the cross takes too many moves, so all pieces will move a lot), turn slowly on the last few moves of the cross, so you can look ahead for the first pair more easily.

 

[CubingForLife]

is it ok to use F and B moves while solving the cross

 

[shadowslice e]

is it ok to use F and B moves while solving the cross

Yeah, sometimes it can be better.

 

[rjcaste]

is it ok to use F and B moves while solving the cross

Yeah, it's completely fine.

 

[Kudz]

Just track some pairs or anything other than the cross you are solving so that you automatically know what you will do when you solve the cross.

Just predict it, this technique is good for xcross or really long cross. If you don't want to have long crosses be CN. ez? ez.

e: D B on cross can be replaced with u R other than that it is perfectly fine.

 

[qwertycuber]

When I solve the cross I sometimes just solve 2 adjacent cross edges, then I place a f2l pair in. Then I place another cross edge, then I place a f2l pair in. I repeat that stage, until I am finished f2l. I can get around 8 second f2l on that. Am I the only one who does that, or is this common?

 

[Kudz]

When I solve the cross I sometimes just solve 2 adjacent cross edges, then I place a f2l pair in. Then I place another cross edge, then I place a f2l pair in. I repeat that stage, until I am finished f2l. I can get around 8 second f2l on that. Am I the only one who does that, or is this common?

Sometimes I do one block like that, but it's much slower than normal cross.

 

[Pragitya]

How to get Faster as The cross in CFOP ?

I use cfop to solve the cube and i have mostly observed that during solving the Cross takes the most time and beleive me that sometimes my F2L takes the same time as the cross ! The cross takes 4 seconds sometimes to 12 secs sometimes. I am learning the full OLL Atm but i figured getting the cross faster will also help very much. Many of you would also think that the cross takes a lot of time. Please help me !

 

[TheoLyh]

Look at some advanced cross videos... You could also try do the cross blindfolded. Do you know full PLL ? If not learn Them before OLL.
I hope this Can help you

 

[CarlThaBeast]

Tips for algorithms for the cross?

Hi cubers! I would love if you guys told me some algorithms for solving the cross faster

 

[Joel2274]

Hi cubers! I would love if you guys told me some algorithms for solving the cross faster

There aren't really any alg for the cross, but there are some tips.
1. instead of rotating the cube, use D moves
2. You don't have to put the cross pieces directly under their center pieces the first time, just make the cross so that it is correctly oriented then match up the centers later.
3. for bad edges, (edges that cant be put into place with one move) I put them on the top layer and do U' R' F R

Hope this helps

 

[CarlThaBeast]

Not what i expected but some tips are always nice, thanks

 

[sqAree]

If you solve the cross on bottom (and you should) you can insert two adjacent incorrectly oriented edges on the U-layer with just R' F R'.

 

[CarlThaBeast]

Ok thanks. Except from algoriths are there any other tips you would like to share? It would really help me

 

[Goosly]

Ok thanks. Except from algoriths are there any other tips you would like to share? It would really help me

There are no algorithms. Practice.