What cubes should be removed from the WCA?

[CubeBlazer]

Clock should NOT be removed. Just because it doesn't fit in with the other events doesn't mean that it should be removed. Every event is supposed to bring something special to the table, and clock does that with a non-algorithmic way of solving it. Also, saying that it should be removed just because it isn't really a twisty puzzle is the same thought process behind racism. Now OBVIOUSLY people who don't like clock aren't bad people in the least, it is just a bad philosophy.

Clock should be removed. My reason? It should be named cloncc.

 

[CodingCuber]

Remove clock, replace it with 15 puzzle.

 

[CubeBlazer]

Add feet back

 

[brododragon]

Add feet back

Lol right now my flashlight is on and I'm sitting on my bed at 1:50 am going on to 30 minutes of a feet attempt have a corner twist.

On a more serious note, feet doesn't have the same ability to be speedy fluid like all other events. Feet is not a speed optimized event, and shouldn't be added to competitions focused on speed.

 

[alexiscubing]

I would rather have kilominx and redi cube than 15 puzzle
3x3 bets is also sick

 

[CrispyCubing]

On a more serious note, feet doesn't have the same ability to be speedy fluid like all other events. Feet is not a speed optimized event, and shouldn't be added to competitions focused on speed.

Yes, you can’t turn as fast in feet but a lot of people enjoy the event because of that. In feet you can be more focused on efficiency and efficiency = speed.

 

[Competition Cuber]

Lol right now my flashlight is on and I'm sitting on my bed at 1:50 am going on to 30 minutes of a feet attempt have a corner twist.

On a more serious note, feet doesn't have the same ability to be speedy fluid like all other events. Feet is not a speed optimized event, and shouldn't be added to competitions focused on speed.

So by your logic, the WCA should remove FMC?

 

[One Wheel]

Lol right now my flashlight is on and I'm sitting on my bed at 1:50 am going on to 30 minutes of a feet attempt have a corner twist.

On a more serious note, feet doesn't have the same ability to be speedy fluid like all other events. Feet is not a speed optimized event, and shouldn't be added to competitions focused on speed.

Your statement is false.

 

[Ayce]

Remove clock, replace it with 15 puzzle.

I don't see why 15 puzzle would benefit anything, it would be hard to regulate and put rules to the puzzles, what would be labeled as pops or dnfs, the material and size of each piece. Too much work for something that seems very small.

 

[Deleted member 51471]

Remove clock, replace it with 15 puzzle.

Clock is too good.

 

[Competition Cuber]

I'm not saying I think that it should/shouldn't be removed, but I think that the reason that a lot of people think clock doesn't belong in the WCA is that it isn't a "twisty puzzle" in the sense that all of the other puzzles are. But then if clock stays, what is really a twisty puzzle?

 

[Ayce]

But then if clock stays, what is really a twisty puzzle?

This quote kinda answers this

Clock should NOT be removed. Just because it doesn't fit in with the other events doesn't mean that it should be removed. Every event is supposed to bring something special to the table, and clock does that with a non-algorithmic way of solving it.

props to carcass for explaining this

 

[Cubinwitdapizza]

I swear this thread gets bumped and revived every 2 weeks.

 

[brododragon]

Your statement is false.

I stand corrected. That shows the people put lots of effort to optimize that and therefore shouldn't of been removed.

So by your logic, the WCA should remove FMC?

If I was correct about feet being unoptimized, which I'm not, I would say the logic doesn't apply to FMC because FMC isn't trying to be fast.

 

[xyzzy]

it would be hard to regulate and put rules to the puzzles

It really wouldn't. We're already holding 15 puzzle in our forum weeklies and the only real issue is that scrambling can be a pain in the butt.

(edit: I guess one slightly tricky thing is that we need to require the board/tiles to have visible orientation so one can't just solve to the upside-down state if that happens to be more convenient, but ultimately this isn't a major hurdle.)

the material and size of each piece

We don't even regulate these for current WCA puzzles; why should we have to do this for 15 puzzle (if it gets added, which it likely won't)?

 

[Ayce]

It really wouldn't. We're already holding 15 puzzle in our forum weeklies and the only real issue is that scrambling can be a pain in the butt.

We don't even regulate these for current WCA puzzles; why should we have to do this for 15 puzzle (if it gets added, which it likely won't)?

good point, but this would just be another rubix magic, people would fill competition spots (non cubers) just to do 15 puzzle and leave. The people who would do the actual events can't g because the spot is taken by a 15 puzzle solver. What would be the case when a tile pops out? People can just slide it back in so fast they wouldn't get caught

 

[Sub1Hour]

15 Puzzle is not really viable as an event because it has a lot of problems that magic had. It's not even a Twisty Puzzle or something similar like clock. If we do add another event we should look at traditional twisty puzzles or something similar to clock. There has been a push to add Kilominx and/or Redi Cube. Personally I am more in favor of Redi Cube being added because there is not anything similar to Redi Cube aside from skweeb but the only thing that they have in common is corner turning. We already have good hardware in the Moyu Redi Cube and the Yuxin Petals Cube, so why not add that to fill the hole that feet left.

 

[GAN 356 X]

After judging clock at a local comp, it really started to interest me. Before that I had thought clock was weird and should be removed, now I have a different perspective. Sure, the hardware is not great, but thats not the fault of us cubers. In my opinion I think if any cube should go it should be pyraminx and skewb, even though I like theses events myself. To replace any events the go I would go for kilominx or master pyraminx

 

[Deleted member 51471]

After judging clock at a local comp, it really started to interest me. Before that I had thought clock was weird and should be removed, now I have a different perspective. Sure, the hardware is not great, but thats not the fault of us cubers. In my opinion I think if any cube should go it should be pyraminx and skewb, even though I like theses events myself. To replace any events the go I would go for kilominx or master pyraminx

YES BECOME A CLOCKER!

 

[ElephantCuber]

Clock is legit my favorite event, and it is the only event that I'm world class at, so it better not be removed