One-Answer 3x3x3 Question Thread

[mafergut]

Just to clarify, I don't know full pll. I know 2 LOOK oll and 2 LOOK pll.

You could get sub-15 or even, theoretically, sub-10 (or sub-12 at least) with 4LLL but I would suggest you to learn full PLL before you reach sub-30 and full OLL before you reach sub-20. Of course, there are people that has delayed the full OLL part until already (much) faster than sub-20. It all depends on how fast your fingers are and how good your memory is. I am more of a memory guy so I learned those algs sooner than that (full PLL when sub-50 or so and full OLL when sub-30).

EDIT: Well, to be honest, I think I procrastinated on learning the four G-perms a little longer than sub-50. I think I was about sub-35 when I learned those. And, yeah, maybe I was missing like 4-8 OLLs until a bit later as well

 

[SuperMud]

Thanks for the advice! Ill start learning full pll.

 

[mafergut]

Thanks for the advice! Ill start learning full pll.

Now that you still can do it. Please be careful when selecting your PLL algs. I learned some pretty awful ones and I can't find the willpower to learn new ones. In particular I hate my V-perm and both N-perms.

 

[Berd]

Now that you still can do it. Please be careful when selecting your PLL algs. I learned some pretty awful ones and I can't find the willpower to learn new ones. In particular I hate my V-perm and both N-perms.

The Cubologist has some great algs for the N perms! One is very easy to learn too!

 

[shadowslice e]

What is the average move count of LSE and Last Eight Edges (all edges except one of the slices (E,M or S) with no orientation) in STM (of course)?

 

[Berd]

What is the average move count of LSE and Last Eight Edges?

Where are the last 8 edges? All bug E slice? M slice? S slice?

 

[TheGermanCuber]

Thats not realy a speedsolving question but do you know where i can find a program for solving big big cubes like 20x20x20?

 

[Sub20MinSolver]

can i get sub 20 with a cube that is worse than a rubik's brand cube?

 

[TDM]

can i get sub 20 with a cube that is worse than a rubik's brand cube?

yes, but if you don't have a better one then get a better one.

 

[mafergut]

can i get sub 20 with a cube that is worse than a rubik's brand cube?

My PB with an old Rubik's (not the new ones or the rubik's speedcube) is around 24 but it's been a long time since I did that. Probably I could do around 20-22 right now. A sub-20 solve is certainly possible but globally sub-20 I really doubt it, unless you are a top cuber.

 

[ChaozCubing]

on CSTimer, What does the "σ" symbol mean? Thanks~

 

[Berd]

on CSTimer, What does the "σ" symbol mean? Thanks~

It's standard deviation. It's to do with how large the range of times were. I think.

 

[Berd]

My PB with an old Rubik's (not the new ones or the rubik's speedcube) is around 24 but it's been a long time since I did that. Probably I could do around 20-22 right now. A sub-20 solve is certainly possible but globally sub-20 I really doubt it, unless you are a top cuber.

First 20 speed solves with my Rubiks Brand. All sub 17's were full step.

Generated By csTimer on 2015-7-12
solves/total: 20/20

single
best: 14.28
worst: 25.81

mean of 3
current: 24.60 (σ = 1.40)
best: 16.59 (σ = 3.03)

avg of 5
current: 22.65 (σ = 2.52)
best: 18.22 (σ = 2.41)

avg of 12
current: 20.88 (σ = 2.52)
best: 19.48 (σ = 2.06)

Average: 20.48 (σ = 2.17)
Mean: 20.44

Time List:
21.25, 21.94, 20.49, 20.06, 20.30, 16.48, 19.06, 20.35, 21.33, 21.85, 21.93, 19.17, 21.09, 15.48, 20.01, 14.28, 19.94, 23.07, 25.81, 24.93


I only average 17

 

[mafergut]

First 20 speed solves with my Rubiks Brand. All sub 17's were full step.

Generated By csTimer on 2015-7-12
solves/total: 20/20

single
best: 14.28
worst: 25.81

mean of 3
current: 24.60 (σ = 1.40)
best: 16.59 (σ = 3.03)

avg of 5
current: 22.65 (σ = 2.52)
best: 18.22 (σ = 2.41)

avg of 12
current: 20.88 (σ = 2.52)
best: 19.48 (σ = 2.06)

Average: 20.48 (σ = 2.17)
Mean: 20.44

Time List:
21.25, 21.94, 20.49, 20.06, 20.30, 16.48, 19.06, 20.35, 21.33, 21.85, 21.93, 19.17, 21.09, 15.48, 20.01, 14.28, 19.94, 23.07, 25.81, 24.93


I only average 17

Is that an old Rubik's with 0 corner cutting? I've heard that the newer ones are a bit better. Maybe I should try again with mine. I didn't think it was even possible to get a 14.xx with that piece of junk.

EDIT: I tried again but with mine it's impossible (for me) to go below 24 unless in a lucky solve (PLL skip or something). It's really a brick.

 

[Berd]

Is that an old Rubik's with 0 corner cutting? I've heard that the newer ones are a bit better. Maybe I should try again with mine. I didn't think it was even possible to get a 14.xx with that piece of junk.

It's not one of the new ones that's for sure. It's really nice tho.

 

[TDM]

Is that an old Rubik's with 0 corner cutting? I've heard that the newer ones are a bit better. Maybe I should try again with mine. I didn't think it was even possible to get a 14.xx with that piece of junk.

Yeah they are. Mine can corner cut about 30 degrees, but it can't reverse corner cut 10 degrees. I just did an Ao12:
12.32, 14.51, 14.52, 11.82, 13.58, 13.64, 13.59, 11.79, 11.95, 20.88, 14.92, 16.08 = 13.69
Definitely better than an old Rubik's Brand

 

[mafergut]

Yep. Mine doesn't cut more than... 5º, reverse 0º. Anyway I'm a patzer, I should be able to do a sub-20 with it but I can't.

 

[Ryp]

Sub-20 (two hands) is equivalent to Sub-__ OH?

 

[Berd]

Sub-20 (two hands) is equivalent to Sub-__ OH?

Around 40 I think.

 

[TDM]

Around 40 I think.

I'd say a bit faster - around 35.