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Fast OLL+ Diag PLL >= Slower OLLCP+ EPLL. Also, diag PLLs(except those goddamn N perms) aren't that bad lol.or you could use opposite OLLCP and avoid v-perms whatsoever
Fast OLL+ Diag PLL >= Slower OLLCP+ EPLL. Also, diag PLLs(except those goddamn N perms) aren't that bad lol.or you could use opposite OLLCP and avoid v-perms whatsoever
Even N perms aren't that bad, the recog is so fast it makes up for the execFast OLL+ Diag PLL >= Slower OLLCP+ EPLL. Also, diag PLLs(except those goddamn N perms) aren't that bad lol.
To me, Na Perms are ok while Nb perms are bad.ast OLL+ Diag PLL >= Slower OLLCP+ EPLL. Also, diag PLLs(except those goddamn N perms) aren't that bad lol.
To me, Na Perms are ok while Nb perms are bad.
Everyone's the other way lolWait... I’m the other way.
Whatever, it’s your choice what you believe and I can’t change that. But personally my opinion is that Nb perm has 1 regrip, and a decent standard algorithm. Na has either a stupidly long standard alg (21 moves) or a reasonably good other algorithm (R F U’ R’ U R U F’ R2 F’ R U R U’ R’ F), 16 moves.
My PBs:My PBs for the algs:
Na standard alg: 1.6
Na other alg: 1.5
Nb standard alg: 1.4
I'm thinking of switching to R F U’ R’ U R U F’ R2 F’ R U R U’ R’ F for Na but I'm slo at it lol.
Isn't the current one R F U’ R’ U R U F’ R2 F’ R U R U’ R’ F ?Na perm (old standard alg: the 21-move abomination; no current standard alg)
The inverse of that sees some use too, and even then the top alg on SCDB is still the 21-move garbage.Isn't the current one R F U’ R’ U R U F’ R2 F’ R U R U’ R’ F ?
It isn't garbage. It's ok but too long.21-move garbage.
There are the 14 move RUF F perms and the S move F perms that people consider standard nowadays ig but the old 15 mover is still on top of the list at SCDB.F perm (old standard alg: R' U' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' U R; no current standard alg)
This exactly illustrates my point. "Standard" means nothing when there are algs that have only recently been gaining popularity. It's too ambiguous.There are the 14 move RUF F perms and the S move F perms that people consider standard nowadays ig but the old 15 mover is still on top of the list at SCDB.
Nowadays, with ever changing preferences, I don't think there will be "standard algs" anymore. There might be 3-4 OO algs from which you have to choose one as a main alg.This exactly illustrates my point. "Standard" means nothing when there are algs that have only recently been gaining popularity. It's too ambiguous.
Guess I need to un-rewire my recognition for Rb so I use the RUB alg for at least the front swap angle.(2017-07-16)
Still using R U2 R' U2 R B' R' U' R U R B R2 (front-back mirror of the standard Rb alg), although I learnt R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R' a while back and it's somewhat faster for me. I really should switch at some point, although it's a bit hard for me because I've been using the RBU alg for years and I keep doing the AUF for that alg instead of the faster RFU alg.
I'm glad you postedNobody asked for this and nobody should learn from this, but here are my PLLs:
You're faster than me yet I have faster PLLs lol(not flexing, just a weird fact)Nobody asked for this and nobody should learn from this, but here are my PLLs:
(imagine knowing over 60 PLL algs and the top quartile by speed is mostly U perms)
(My timings for the MU EPLLs are 0.2-0.3 faster if I start from MU grip, but that's stupid because my hands are almost never in MU grip at the start of PLL. Also, due to timer starts/stops, the actual timings are 0.1-ish faster than what's in the sheet. Also also, these times are means and they include all lockups and mistakes.)
I kinda want to do this for the other alg sets too (OLL/OLLCP, ZBLL, ELL, ???) but drilling algs is also kinda boring, so eh.
On another note:
Guess I need to un-rewire my recognition for Rb so I use the RUB alg for at least the front swap angle.
Yeah PLL algs are probably the worst way to see how fast someone is. Sure, if your fast you tend to also have the fastest PLL times, but in your case its not true. It's kind of like watching a short Olympic event, like the 100m, and assuming that all of those guys have great mile times.You're faster than me yet I have faster PLLs lol(not flexing, just a weird fact)
Try the RUD alg. It isn't easy to mess upok, ok. I know I'm terrible but look
R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R U' S' U2' S U' R2
It's basically my worst G-perm turning into Jb + RUS Uperm with no AUF in between.
I can do the RUD G-perm in 2.2s tops and this one I can sub-2 on a good try. And I mess up the normal G-perm way too often so I think this is my new G-perm for my upcoming comp.
it's mostly subjective.can any1 post here the OO oll and pll list?