# [Help Thread]OLL and PLL Discussion

#### Travelingyoyokid

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I am in the progress of learning OLL, but am have some problems. I am using The Cube App’s learn page which gives a new oll to learn every day, which I like. The problem is that the graphic to show which oll it is doesn’t show all the sides. I’ve been able to make do but I can’t anymore. The alg for this case doesn’t work, and I looked at cubeskills as well and it also didn’t work..? I feel like a noob, but I’m doing both algs correct and in the right orientation. What am I doing wrong on these algs and do you have a better recommendation for where to learn OLL?
Thanks

#### Luke Solves Cubes

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I use jperm.net and speedcubedb.net because they have algorithm options for what i like and also they have a trainer so I can train the cases I already know and am learning. Hope this helps!

#### TheCubingCuber347

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I am in the progress of learning OLL, but am have some problems. I am using The Cube App’s learn page which gives a new oll to learn every day, which I like. The problem is that the graphic to show which oll it is doesn’t show all the sides. I’ve been able to make do but I can’t anymore. The alg for this case doesn’t work, and I looked at cubeskills as well and it also didn’t work..? I feel like a noob, but I’m doing both algs correct and in the right orientation. What am I doing wrong on these algs and do you have a better recommendation for where to learn OLL?
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The Cube Skills alg is much better, use that one. If a letter is lower case you move multiple layers at once. So "f" would be moving the F layer and the S layer together. The same applies to, say, "r". "r" means move the right layer and the M' layer together but if it said "l" you would move L and M.

#### Timona

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F U R U' R' F U' F R U R' U' F'

#### Travelingyoyokid

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Thanks! Shoulda thought of the lowercase thing.

#### qwr

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You can paste your algorithm into alg.cubing.net or cubedb.net to see how the turns are made.
Actually would look up alg executions on YouTube since the finger tricks are vital for execution

#### landon_123

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i need help learning pll can u guys help

#### Thom S.

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i need help learning pll can u guys help
What do you need help on?

#### Imsoosm

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pll
and to get faster
You should make it a bit clearer. What about PLL? Just to get faster?
Well then, improve on your turning. Search up youtube videos on PLL fingertricks. And have a fast transition from OLL to PLL.

#### Thom S.

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You said, you need help with PLL