[Help Thread] OLL and PLL Discussion

[U3cubing]

I am in the progress of learning OLL, but am have some problems. I am using The Cube App’s learn page which gives a new oll to learn every day, which I like. The problem is that the graphic to show which oll it is doesn’t show all the sides. I’ve been able to make do but I can’t anymore. The alg for this case doesn’t work, and I looked at cubeskills as well and it also didn’t work..? I feel like a noob, but I’m doing both algs correct and in the right orientation. What am I doing wrong on these algs and do you have a better recommendation for where to learn OLL?
Thanks

 

[Luke Solves Cubes]

I use jperm.net and speedcubedb.net because they have algorithm options for what i like and also they have a trainer so I can train the cases I already know and am learning. Hope this helps!

 

[DuckubingCuber347]

I am in the progress of learning OLL, but am have some problems. I am using The Cube App’s learn page which gives a new oll to learn every day, which I like. The problem is that the graphic to show which oll it is doesn’t show all the sides. I’ve been able to make do but I can’t anymore. The alg for this case doesn’t work, and I looked at cubeskills as well and it also didn’t work..? I feel like a noob, but I’m doing both algs correct and in the right orientation. What am I doing wrong on these algs and do you have a better recommendation for where to learn OLL?
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The Cube Skills alg is much better, use that one. If a letter is lower case you move multiple layers at once. So "f" would be moving the F layer and the S layer together. The same applies to, say, "r". "r" means move the right layer and the M' layer together but if it said "l" you would move L and M.

 

[U3cubing]

Thanks! Shoulda thought of the lowercase thing.

 

[qwr]

You can paste your algorithm into alg.cubing.net or cubedb.net to see how the turns are made.
Actually would look up alg executions on YouTube since the finger tricks are vital for execution

 

[landon_123]

i need help learning pll can u guys help

 

[Thom S.]

i need help learning pll can u guys help

What do you need help on?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

i need help learning pll can u guys help

who, what, where, when, how, why...?

 

[landon_123]

What do you need help on?

pll
and to get faster

 

[Imsoosm]

pll
and to get faster

You should make it a bit clearer. What about PLL? Just to get faster?
Well then, improve on your turning. Search up youtube videos on PLL fingertricks. And have a fast transition from OLL to PLL.

 

[Thom S.]

You said, you need help with PLL
I asked What exactly
You answered PLL

Don't you see, how this isn't helpful and is getting us nowhere.
Where on learning PLL do you need help?

 

[Timona]

Does anyone have a link to a video for the fingertricks for this V-perm alg

R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Does anyone have a link to a video for the fingertricks for this V-perm alg

R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2

6:10 onward

 

[IsThatA4x4]

Does anyone have a link to a video for the fingertricks for this V-perm alg

R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2

If you're feeling swag (and risky), you can do this alg except with this exec:
(thumb on top) R' U R' U' R D' R' D R3 U D' R2' U' R2 D R2'
It's very difficult though, I have never done it successfully fast.

 

[IsThatA4x4]

A quick document I wanted to make, after looking through some videos and watching WBs, the OO PLL alg doc!
link

 

[PiKeeper]

A quick document I wanted to make, after looking through some videos and watching WBs, the OO PLL alg doc!
link

What is this supposed to be for? Is it just a list of the algs used to set each wb?

 

[IsThatA4x4]

What is this supposed to be for? Is it just a list of the algs used to set each wb?

Thought it might be fun, it's pretty hard to find these algs in one place. I think most if not all of these are used in the wbs, I know the J, F, U, G, E, H and Z perms for sure use those algs.
Might extend for OLLs and F2Ls as well at some point, though that would take a while.
Edit: for anyone who doesn't know, OO means "objectively optimal" and is used to refer to algs that are very fast, but usually have hard fingertricks that make them mostly unrealistic to use in real solves.

 

[Imsoosm]

If you're feeling swag (and risky), you can do this alg except with this exec:
(thumb on top) R' U R' U' R D' R' D R3 U D' R2' U' R2 D R2'
It's very difficult though, I have never done it successfully fast.

The R3 is pretty easy to do, but I can't do U with my left index ;-;

 

[ruffleduck]

A quick document I wanted to make, after looking through some videos and watching WBs, the OO PLL alg doc!
link

Most of the algs in your document are the best algorithms for framecount attempts which is what I believe the definition of OO is. I decided to go one step further and compile all of the THEORETICALLY optimal algorithms, not even practical for framecount attempts. Still needs reviewing, because these are from the top of my head.

Theoretically Optimal Speed PLL algorithms

These algorithms are what I deem to be theoretically optimal for PLL, ignoring any pre-regrips or pre-rotations. Algs that have an equal speed mirror counterpart are only shown as righty. Not practical at all for solves or even framecount attempts (unless you are skilled enough to perform the dif...

docs.google.com

 

[yevgenijA]

Could anyone please explain me how do I get to the starting position of any algorithm I’m going to learn? I mean, for example, I want to learn some C-shapes and repeat the algorithm I learn for several times in a row. Of cause I can do some random scrambles and hope that I’ll get this particular C-shape. But those guys who make tutorials just do some turns and get the needed starting point. How to do that? Why nobody explain?