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Lid

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Looks like the "Age vs Speed" page is gone from the WCA site, anyone know why, cause I'd really wanted a more detailed version of it.

Maybe biggest and smallest single to average ratio in every event (I want to see 2x2 atleast)
I second that, in 2x2 I have avg/single = 1.137 for example.
 
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I'd like to see a list of those with slow PB averages that also have a sub 10 single.

Interesting idea! Here is the Top 100:

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1	16,20	2009JAGI01	Maciek Jagiełło
2	16,16	2011FOYL01	Christian Foyle
3	15,66	2010DUON01	Tuan Nghia Duong
4	15,64	2007CLAE03	Mattias Claesson
5	15,46	2011EBEL01	Frank Ebel
6	15,39	2012MAAL01	Marius Müßler
7	15,18	2008JADE01	Henry Jade
8	14,98	2010LICH03	Chia-Hsin Li (黎佳鑫)
9	14,89	2008MCKE01	Richard McKearney
10	14,80	2009ZAMZ01	Muhammad Za'im Bin Zamzam
11	14,48	2011VAND01	Alex VanderGriend
12	14,35	2010ANDE03	David Andersson
13	14,28	2009ROTA01	Marco Rota
14	14,11	2011NATH01	Marshal Nathan
15	14,07	2011REAU02	Hayden Reaume
16	14,05	2010FLOO01	Boaz Floor
17	14,04	2011HAVL01	Valentin Havlovec
18	14,02	2006SHEU01	Vincent Sheu
18	14,02	2009NATE01	Supakit Nateeraitaiwa (ศุภกิตติ์ นทีรัยโทวะ)
20	14,01	2012GABO01	Julien Gaboriaud
21	13,89	2005CAMP01	Dave Campbell
22	13,87	2006ANDO01	Kouetsu Ando (安藤弘悦)
23	13,86	2011SIMO02	Fabian Simon
24	13,81	2010HOAN06	Le-Thanh Hoang
25	13,76	2010KIKO01	Koo Chun Ki (顧俊祺)
26	13,72	2008IAMO01	Marco Iamonte
27	13,70	2009SUPC01	Anukun Supcharoenkun (อนุกูล ทรัพย์เจริญกุล)
28	13,69	2010LENG01	Daniel Yeo Sian Leng
29	13,68	2012KEJS01	Ottfried Kejs
29	13,68	2009GUGL01	David Gugl
31	13,67	2007THOM02	Phil Thomas
32	13,58	2011MERL01	Davide Merli
33	13,57	2010HAFN01	Sebastian Häfner
34	13,51	2009KIJV01	Prin Kijviwattanakarn (ปริญ กิจวิวัฒนการ)
35	13,50	2010CHAW02	Nathapat Chawawiwat (ณัฐพัชร์ ชววิวรรธน์)
36	13,45	2008AURO01	Sébastien Auroux
37	13,38	2010HYUN01	Kim Tae Hyung (김태형)
38	13,33	2008WAIM01	Mok Mun Wai (莫滿懷)
39	13,27	2009OSTA01	Roman Ostapenko (Роман Остапенко)
40	13,22	2007MOSE02	Jack Moseley
41	13,21	2009MACA01	Matias Macaya
42	13,18	2008MATS03	Kohta Matsumoto (松本滉太)
43	13,16	2011ANIS01	Dmitry Aniskin
44	13,13	2012WOYD01	Mike Woyden
45	13,12	2009SROC01	Marcin Sroczyński
46	13,09	2007SHIR01	Takuma Shirahase (白波瀬拓磨)
46	13,09	2010MICH03	Michael
48	13,08	2009YIMW01	Weragone Yimwilai (วีรากร ยิ้มวิลัย)
49	13,06	2011JOVI01	Vincent Jovian
50	13,05	2010RICH04	Yannick Richter
50	13,05	2010FUGU01	Guanda Fu (符冠达)
52	13,04	2011RECH01	Nick Rech
52	13,04	2008LINS01	Shih-Yao Lin (林詩堯)
54	13,03	2007CERP02	Renan Mondini Cerpe
55	13,01	2012FABR01	Emilien Fabre
56	12,97	2009OKAD01	Yuta Okada (岡田雄太)
57	12,96	2009ARSA01	Riadi Arsandi
58	12,94	2008LIUE01	Edward Liu
59	12,90	2006COLL01	Jimmy Coll
59	12,90	2009ZENG07	Rong Zeng (曾嵘)
61	12,89	2009KIEL01	Tomasz Kiełbasa
62	12,88	2008AUNE01	Deseree Aune
63	12,87	2006MORG01	Błażej Morgała
64	12,86	2008JUKK01	Konsta Jukka
65	12,85	2011JIAN18	Tianzhao Jiang (姜天兆)
66	12,83	2006LINC01	Chia-Leo Lin (林珈樂)
67	12,77	2007JIPT01	Kai Jiptner
68	12,76	2010MANG01	Aldino Mangawing
68	12,76	2007CHRI03	Tobias Christlieb
70	12,74	2007SINT01	Benjamin Sintes
70	12,74	2011LELE01	Gaspard Leleux
72	12,73	2003POCH01	Stefan Pochmann
72	12,73	2007ALEX01	Piotr Alexandrowicz
74	12,72	2009LIUY03	Yiming Liu (刘一鸣)
75	12,69	2010KHIE01	Chan Wai Khiew
76	12,66	2010REZA01	Yahya Reza
77	12,63	2010LOMA01	Malvin Lo
77	12,63	2009TAIV01	Eetu Taivalsaari
79	12,62	2003BRUC01	Ron van Bruchem
80	12,60	2009ROHR01	Michael Röhrer
81	12,59	2010YEPM01	Matthew Yep
82	12,56	2008SZER01	András Szermek
82	12,56	2009MONE01	Rene Ralph Moneza
84	12,55	2007LUJI01	Jia-Hong Lu (陸嘉宏)
84	12,55	2011SALG01	Daniel Cano Salgado
84	12,55	2006CORR01	Devin Corr-Robinett
87	12,54	2009GARC04	Pau Vela García
87	12,54	2011YATS01	Ilya Yatsenko
87	12,54	2010UBAL01	John Edison Ubaldo
87	12,54	2011BOGA01	Anders Bogan
91	12,52	2008YUAN01	Freddie Yuan
91	12,52	2009HIMT01	Tse Shun Him (谢顺谦)
93	12,51	2009HONG04	Preeda Hongpimolmas
93	12,51	2008TROM01	Péter Trombitás
93	12,51	2007LING01	Alexander Lin
96	12,49	2011BAIN01	Nan Bai (柏楠)
97	12,45	2005KWON01	Darren Kwong
97	12,45	2011PENG04	Shiqi Peng (彭世奇)
99	12,43	2012HUAN12	Ping-Yueh Huang (黃品越)
100	12,42	2010ESTU01	Rémi Esturoune

I assumed to be in that list as well and indeed I'm number 36.
 
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(If you wait a few days, I should be near the top for x = 9)
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Anson Lin 10.00
Yan Jin 10.17
Gomain Ngernseng 10.18
Nguyễn Ngọc Thịnh 10.23
Yueh-Lin Tsai 10.24
(Simon Crawford 10.26)
Nick Stanton 10.28
Muhammad Badruddin 10.29
Tomoya Iida 10.30
Przemysław Kaleta 10.33
Jonathan Hamstad 10.34
Thom Barlow 10.34
Kaijun Lin 10.35
Ken Lin 10.39
Natthaphat Mahtani 10.42
Patricia Li 10.49
Valentin Hoffmann 10.49
Lee Jin-Hyung 10.50
Woo Jin Kim 10.55
Forte Shinko 10.56
SeungWook Eun 10.56
Yu Byeong-Seon 10.56
Jules Desjardin 10.57
Adam Polkowski 10.59
Yongting You 10.59
Jiaxi Wang 10.69
Mohamad Azraei 10.72
Tommaso Zoffoli 10.72
Zhenzhong Huang 10.74
Alexey Polyashov 10.75
Austin Reed 10.75
Rama Temmink 10.77
Yuhei Takagi 10.77
Hsuan Chang 10.78
Heo Chang-Hoe 10.79
Jorge Castillo Matas 10.79
Mitchell Lane 10.79
Weston Mizumoto 10.79
Dharmesh Shahu 10.83
Mitchell Stern 10.84
Andres Flügel 10.87
Apidet Lothanakit 10.87
Moe Nakano 10.88
Evan Liu 10.89
José Leonardo Chaparro Prieto 10.92
(Dmitry Zvyagintsev 10.93)
Kamaru-Deen Lawal 10.93
Christian Dirks 10.95
Nathaniel Knopf 10.95
Everett Kelly 10.97
Shuang Chen 10.97
Meng'an Pu 10.98
Ville Seppänen 10.99
These are all the people with a 10.xx average but no sub-9 single. All the 9.xx average people have a sub-9 single (I checked), so this list is in fact all the "fastest" people. Two people are in parentheses since their results are on cubecomps but have not been made official yet.
 

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FM Stats!

Hope you have fun reading! I did most of this 10 days ago, so that's when the database export is from.

4665 out of 7872 attempts (not counting DNS) have been successful. This is 59.3%. The rest are DNFs of course.

The mean solve is 42.43
The median solve is 41

Average result for 1st place: 32.63
Average result for 2nd place: 36.41
Average result for 3rd place: 38.91

Top 10 people ranked by Mean solve (min 5 attempts)
RankNameAttemptsSolvesDNFsMean solve
1Daniel Sheppard2118330.44
2Sébastien Auroux108842430.65
3Erik Jernqvist137630.71
4Teemu Tiinanen1910930.9
5Steven Xu55031.2
6Tomoaki Okayama3029131.24
7Yu Nakajima139431.56
8Moritz Karl107331.86
9Marcel Peters1710732
10Grzegorz Luczyna2013732.15
Top 10 people ranked by Median Attempt (min 5 attempts)
I kind of prefer this ranking because it takes account of DNFs too (i.e. you can't just submit really good results to lower your mean)
RankNameAttemptsSolvesDNFsMedian Attempt
1Tomoaki Okayama3029130.5
2=Sébastien Auroux108842431
2=Daniel Sheppard2118331
4=Chris Hardwick66032
4=Steven Xu55032
4=Shuang Chen1313032
7=Tim Reynolds2922733
7=Yu Nakajima139433
7=Feliks Zemdegs55033
7=Erik Jernqvist137633
Most attempts
RankNameCountryAttempts
1Sébastien AurouxGermany108
2François CourtèsFrance92
3Erik AkkersdijkNetherlands91
4Clément GalletFrance89
5Arnaud van GalenNetherlands81
6Lars VandenberghBelgium52
7Ron van BruchemNetherlands50
8Jan BentlageGermany47
9Javier Cabezuelo SánchezSpain46
10István KoczaHungary38
Most attempts without a DNF
RankNameCountryAttemptsSolves
1Bob BurtonUSA3030
2Maarten SmitNetherlands2626
3Piotr KózkaPoland2424
4Simon WestlundSweden1818
5Shuang ChenChina1313
6Timothy SunUSA1111
7=Zbigniew ZborowskiPoland1010
7=Mateusz KurekPoland1010
7=Riadi ArsandiIndonesia1010
10Rowe HesslerUSA99
Most attempts without a solve
RankNameCountryAttemptsSolves
1Elisabet Delgado MasSpain120
2Aki KunikoshiJapan70
3Henrik KragDenmark70
4Suchakree LadavarnThailand60
5Luis Javier Iáñez ParejaSpain60
6Ethan CrislipUSA60
7Leonid TimonineRussia40
8Antonie PaterakisGreece40
9=28 people30
Irontwig's request
This could be a little bit tricky:
Official FMC results; if you have done <10n attempts you're ranked according to your nth best solve. I.e. 1-9 attempts: best solve, 10-19 second best solve, 20-29 third best solve...
RankNameAttemptsnnth Best Solve
1Jimmy Coll7122
2Joon Cha1125
3=Robert Yau7126
3=Sergey Ryabko9126
4=Sébastien Auroux1081027
4=Tomoaki Okayama30427
4=Daniel Sheppard21327
4=Tim Reynolds29327
4=Marcel Peters17227
4=Teemu Tiinanen19227
4=Claudio Muller3127
4=Steven Xu5127
4=Dmitry Karyakin5127
4=Quentin Savard6127
4=Michael Young7127
4=Fang Qin8127
4=David Woner8127
4=Jakob Kogler8127
4=Stephen Adhisaputra9127
Top 10 countries ranked by Mean solve (min 20 attempts)
RankCountrySolvesMean Solve
1Finland4438.14
2Netherlands31639.47
3France47940.27
4Denmark8441.26
5Thailand5741.3
6Hungary26141.47
7United Kingdom10941.61
8Japan22341.74
9Sweden16141.85
10Germany53141.93
Top 10 countries ranked by Success Rate (min 20 attempts)
RankCountryAttemptsSolvesSuccess Rate
1Australia292275.68%
2Taiwan322475.00%
3Korea241875.00%
4Malaysia231773.91%
5Romania453373.33%
6United Kingdom16610965.66%
7Poland55736264.99%
8Indonesia25216364.68%
9USA73947063.60%
10Canada573663.16%
Top 10 countries ranked by Median attempt (min 20 attempts)
RankNameAttemptsSolvesDNFsMedian Attempt
1Taiwan3224845
2=France81747933847
2=Australia2922747
4Finland76443247.5
5=USA73947026948
5=Netherlands55231623648
5=United Kingdom1661095748
8=Poland55736219549
8=Hungary42926116849
8=Japan35422313149
8=Sweden26516110449
8=Romania45331249
Top 10 podiums
RankCompetition1st2nd3rdSum
1BW Open 201321262774
2Saarland Open 201224252978
3=United States Rubik's Cube Championships 201024272879
3=Czech Open 201220293079
3=Velbert Open 201326262779
3=Berlin Open 201323282879
7=German Open 201323273080
7=Weston-super-Mare 201226272780
9=Dutch Nationals 201024263181
9=Twente Open 201225263081
4 competitions had the whole podium on the same result:
German Open 2011 (33), German Open 2010 (33), Nanjing Autumn 2011 (36), Munich Open 2010 (39)

4 people have missed the podium with a sub-30 solve:
Sam Boyles (USNationals2010 - 29 moves), Erik Akkersdijk (VelbertOpen2013 - 29), Linus Fresz (BWOpen2013 - 29), Andreas Pohl (BerlinOpen2013 - 29)
 

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Looks like the "Age vs Speed" page is gone from the WCA site, anyone know why

Some people don't like them so they changed the regulations so that birth dates are now considered confidential information and then now they deleted all age statistics because of it (the top 10 youngest/oldest solvers we had here as well).
 
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Some people don't like them so they changed the regulations so that birth dates are now considered confidential information and then now they deleted all age statistics because of it (the top 10 youngest/oldest solvers we had here as well).


Why they don't like them Stefan? do you have any idea?

I don't understand why people so shy to tell the truth about her or his age?

Sorry if I'm wrong :)
 

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Some people don't like them so they changed the regulations so that birth dates are now considered confidential information and then now they deleted all age statistics because of it (the top 10 youngest/oldest solvers we had here as well).

Could you just have the diagrams as before, but without any names? That shoudn't bother anyone imo.
 

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I don't understand why people so shy to tell the truth about her or his age?

Nah, wasn't the people in those statistics. I never heard of anyone complaining because of themselves. I only heard people being proud of being on those lists or wishing they were on them (me as well, I once got very close to having the best 3x3 average for my age). And of course for years the regulations explicitly excluded birth date from being confidential, so all competitors kinda explicitly agreed to them being used publicly, but apparently that doesn't matter.

Could you just have the diagrams as before, but without any names? That shoudn't bother anyone imo.

One could still reverse engineer at least the approximate ages of the world record holders, so... no. Otherwise I would've expected the guys to already just remove the list of names on that page rather than the entire page. No, all birth date related stuff is categorically off the table now. I think I'm not even allowed to tell you the average age of all competitors.
 
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Nah, wasn't the people in those statistics. I never heard of anyone complaining because of themselves. I only heard people being proud of being on those lists or wishing they were on them (me as well, I once got very close to having the best 3x3 average for my age). And of course for years the regulations explicitly excluded birth date from being confidential, so all competitors kinda explicitly agreed to them being used publicly, but apparently that doesn't matter


Means: You still have the time to get The Best 3x3 average for your age. Keep on practice Stefan :)
Sorry I'm weird
 

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On the age vs speed thing, this is pretty much the only reason I speed cube. I can see privacy concerns being important.

I suppose we can use "age groups" as is done in other sports. For example, here are the current outdoor track records for men and women, by age group and distance:

http://www.world-masters-athletics.org/records/outdoor-men

http://www.world-masters-athletics.org/records/outdoor-women

For example, Ronald Taylor has the outdoor record for the 100m in men 60 and older.

By the way, if you're curious about what we're talking about here (but can't see it because the page has been deleted), you can use the "way back" tool to show the WCA record for "age vs speed" as it appeared in May 2013:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130512...ssociation.org/results/misc/age_vs_speed.html
 
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh , that was my only award , this list was my motivator , silly to remove I am willing to take up the task to generate this list if it is the amount of work to make the list. These stats is my only list where I am relative nr 1 of the world.

btw it is silly to have age as a confidential issue , what is confidential ? Main cubers are already on a wiki page with age , age is a give away at competitions . No one believe me when I say I am 18
 
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