[Help Thread] Big Cubes Discussion

[Sub1Hour]

I avg 1:23 ish sometimes. I don't keep track of exact splits but my redux takes around 1:00-1:10. I think that my Centers are about 25 seconds any my edges are 40 seconds. 3x3 stage is 13-15. Your splits should be 35 centers, 55 edges, and 20 3x3 stage. Look at example solves from Feliks on cubeskills and look at the centers since that seems to be where you are struggling the most comparatively

I started to practice 5x5 this week, and I did my first 100 solves and my average is 2:40.00

I want to be sub1:50 by the end of the year, so I would like to know what is the average of the splits to be sub 1:50

First 6 centers ?
First 8 edges ?
Last 4 edges ?
3x3 stage ?

Now my average is: (2:40.00)
First 6 centers: 50 sec
First 8 edges: 1:10.00
Last 4 edges: 20 sec
3x3 stage: 20 sec

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[bob_lightbulb]

How do you do L4E on 5x5? I've seen people do Freestyle edges with two on the front and 2 on the top (mainly Jay), and also people do slice flip slice and 3 cycles (if thats what they're called. I'm a bit confused rn, and L4e is one of my weak points, pls help. Also when I do freestyle edges for l4e I only solve 1 edge some fo the time and other times I solve all 2. Thanks in advance

For me personally, I use slice flip slice to do L4E on 5x5. You can solve any unsolved edge in two "slice flip slice"s. I average around 1:50 with this method. J Perm has a tutorial about 5x5 if you want to check that out.

 

[bob_lightbulb]

I started to practice 5x5 this week, and I did my first 100 solves and my average is 2:40.00

I want to be sub1:50 by the end of the year, so I would like to know what is the average of the splits to be sub 1:50

First 6 centers ?
First 8 edges ?
Last 4 edges ?
3x3 stage ?

Now my average is: (2:40.00)
First 6 centers: 50 sec
First 8 edges: 1:10.00
Last 4 edges: 20 sec
3x3 stage: 20 sec

Hi. I average just over 1:50 (1:52 official), and here are my splits for 5x5. I main the YJ Yuchuang (not a very good cube)

"F6C": 35-40
"F8E": ≈32
L4E: ≈12
3x3: ≈23

I feel like the biggest thing holding you back might be edges. Make sure you are using freeslice, and try and waste as little moves as possible. 3x3 stage is not a big deal on 5x5 unless you get to a very high level (sub 1:20?). Also, try and improve your TPS for centers, because for me, simply spamming TPS gets me about 5 seconds faster than trying to be as efficient as possible. Of course, it's still important to be efficient, but if TPS is holding you back then that's a big thing to improve on.

Hope that helped!

 

[ProStar]

I'm having trouble with L2C on 9x9, how exactly to I go about solving them?

 

[BenChristman1]

I'm having trouble with L2C on 9x9, how exactly to I go about solving them?

Skip to 5:11 in the video. I know that it says 6x6, but it works for any big cube.

 

[ProStar]

Ok, so I got edge parity on 9x9. It looks like normal 5x5 edge parity but when I tried the alg(except with wider moves) it only messed up the cube. I'm back to L2E and I got it again. Here's what it looks like:

 

[xyzzy]

Ok, so I got edge parity on 9x9. It looks like normal 5x5 edge parity but when I tried the alg(except with wider moves) it only messed up the cube. I'm back to L2E and I got it again. Here's what it looks like:

View attachment 11484

Imagine gluing the second through fourth layers together, as well as the sixth through eighth layers. Now you have a 5×5×5 with thin middle/outer layers and fat inner layers, and also maybe a sense of déjà vu.

 

[ProStar]

Imagine gluing the second through fourth layers together, as well as the sixth through eighth layers. Now you have a 5×5×5 with thin middle/outer layers and fat inner layers, and also maybe a sense of déjà vu.

Oops forgot about that post lol. I ended up actually just doing the alg wrong the first time, I got it now. Thanks

 

[ProStar]

(sorry for double post)

My Mf9 9x9 popped. its a center, top row 3rd from the left. It has a weird shape and I'm not sure how to put it back

 

[One Wheel]

(sorry for double post)

My Mf9 9x9 popped. its a center, top row 3rd from the left. It has a weird shape and I'm not sure how to put it back

Picture? Most likely you need to put it in the hole and flex/stretch the cube left to right, while pulling the piece toward the nearest corner and turning slightly to get the foot under the lip that holds it.

 

[goidlon]

Hey guys any tips on yau 5x5

 

[NoobCube]

Covid quarantine has got me back into cubing after many years off. Revisiting 5x5, I may be missing something but it seems all online resources miss out a case for pairing the last two tredges and I would like to check if I'm missing something.

I've forgotten how to make images but the case in question is where each "edge centre" is surrounded by the wrong edge pieces. The orientation is such that an M slice turn could align either tredge perfectly. To illustrate, it's like this case https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e#alg/5l2e6 but it's as if the blue and red pieces were flipped so that they were the same orientation as the green and orange ones.

All of the l2e resources I've found (e.g. https://cubingcheatsheet.com/algs5x.html and https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e) don't seem to include this case, which makes me think either there's a very simple solution to it or everybody copied everybody writing guides and missed this one out. I got this case in a solve so it is real.

What's going on? It's driving me mad not knowing.

 

[NoobCube]

All of the l2e resources I've found (e.g. https://cubingcheatsheet.com/algs5x.html and https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e) don't seem to include this case, which makes me think either there's a very simple solution to it or everybody copied everybody writing guides and missed this one out.

Aha, I've just noticed it's equivalent to https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e#alg/5l2e4 after e.g F U' R. But that doesn't fully explain things still, as several of the cases presented as separate can also be turned into each other by similar manipulations.

 

[xyzzy]

Covid quarantine has got me back into cubing after many years off. Revisiting 5x5, I may be missing something but it seems all online resources miss out a case for pairing the last two tredges and I would like to check if I'm missing something.

I've forgotten how to make images but the case in question is where each "edge centre" is surrounded by the wrong edge pieces. The orientation is such that an M slice turn could align either tredge perfectly. To illustrate, it's like this case https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e#alg/5l2e6 but it's as if the blue and red pieces were flipped so that they were the same orientation as the green and orange ones.

All of the l2e resources I've found (e.g. https://cubingcheatsheet.com/algs5x.html and https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e) don't seem to include this case, which makes me think either there's a very simple solution to it or everybody copied everybody writing guides and missed this one out. I got this case in a solve so it is real.

What's going on? It's driving me mad not knowing.

Aha, I've just noticed it's equivalent to https://sarah.cubing.net/5x5x5/l2e#alg/5l2e4 after e.g F U' R. But that doesn't fully explain things still, as several of the cases presented as separate can also be turned into each other by similar manipulations.

Yes, this case (and somehow only this case!) is missing from almost every L2E resource I've seen. The "standard" solution is indeed to just flip the edge (with F U' R U' or similar) then do r2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 r2.

There's no "why" to it. It's just the result of one site omitting the case, then another website copying the list of cases from there, and yet another website copying from another, ad infinitum.

 

[NoobCube]

Yes, this case (and somehow only this case!) is missing from almost every L2E resource I've seen. The "standard" solution is indeed to just flip the edge (with F U' R U' or similar) then do r2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 r2.

There's no "why" to it. It's just the result of one site omitting the case, then another website copying the list of cases from there, and yet another website copying from another, ad infinitum.

Fair enough, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy! Seems like an unusual oversight though :\

 

[Sub1Hour]

Current progress on big cubes: 1/mo3/ao5./ao12
5x5 PB: 1:14.99/1:20.69/1:21.81/1:23.19 Cube: Pro Shop MGC5
6x6 PB: 2:19.84/2:30.44/2:32.65/2:36.55 Cube: MGC6
7x7 PB: 3:40.28/3:52.28/3:55.07/3:58.23 Cube: Spark M

My goals I hope to reach by June 1st

5x5: 1:05.xx/1:13.xx/1:15.xx/1:20.xx
6x6: 2:10.xx/2:18.xx/2:23.xx/2:30.xx
7x7: 3:30.xx/3:40.xx/3:42.xx/3:45.xx

I'm hoping to do at least 200 solves combined 5-7 each week.

 

[Nmile7300]

I average similarly, wanna race to these goals?

 

[Sub1Hour]

I average similarly, wanna race to these goals?

Sure, Update the thread when you break one of the goals. Good Luck!

 

[Nmile7300]

Good luck to you also
Edit: 5x5 ao12 goal hit! 1:19.14 average of 12. Don't worry, I'm not very close to the other goals.

 

[Ayce]

How do I get the last 2 edges on a 9x9?