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ZBLL learning is pretty fun imo. Also, full TUL is worth learning even if you use CFOP so why not?
Exactly. I've known about it for a long time, and I've wanted to start learning, but I've just been to shy to say it. The thing I'm thinking of is a full ZBLL commitment, and I think I might be the only guy to do this.

Edit: I'm sorry.
Being serious now, what method of recog do you use? Also, what was your learning pattern like as far as daily practice/review/ect?
 
Being serious now, what method of recog do you use? Also, what was your learning pattern like as far as daily practice/review/ect?
I just recog the COLL, then look for patterns(which is basically Baum-Harris recog afaik) for T and U and @OreKehStrah's NCP for L
As far as practice routine, it was, let's say all over the place. I learnt it on and off(which is why I took 8 months to do this but the total effort I put in was only about 3 weeks' worth).
I learnt 12 algs per day using train yu(with a virtual cube)
The recall seems to be great. I can remember the algs for months without review.
I still need to review/drill the algs using a real cube though since my executions are pretty bad.
 
How exactly does that work? I've heard about it before, but I still don't really know how it works...
You basically input the algs you wanna learn in that white field thingy below, check the use virtual cube option and just hit next scramble and just solve it. Tao Yu has a whole video about it. Train yu lets you do crazy things(like learning 24-36 algs in a day).

Btw I should be thanking Ore for suggesting train yu or else this would have taken forever.
 
You basically input the algs you wanna learn in that white field thingy below, check the use virtual cube option and just hit next scramble and just solve it. Tao Yu has a whole video about it. Train yu lets you do crazy things(like learning 24-36 algs in a day).

Btw I should be thanking Ore for suggesting train yu or else this would have taken forever.
Ok I'm checking it out now. How does the virtual cube transition to irl 3x3? It seems like that would not work very well...
 
Ok I'm checking it out now. How does the virtual cube transition to irl 3x3? It seems like that would not work very well...
Yeah it usually doesn't. You still need to figure out fingertricks and drill the algs until they go into muscle memory. But the good thing about it is, it cuts your time and effort while learning algs for the first time by almost half. But after all this, I've only got 5-10 good solves with ZBLL until today.
 
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Ok I'm checking it out now. How does the virtual cube transition to irl 3x3? It seems like that would not work very well...
I used it to learn algs for OH since the TPS difference wouldn't be as noticeable. To me, I found it was no worse than learning on alg the normal way, since you'll still be slow at it until you use it long enough to get into you muscle memory.
 
Ok I'm checking it out now. How does the virtual cube transition to irl 3x3? It seems like that would not work very well...

I have recently had a chat with a violin player who performs solo acts at concerts. I asked if she sometimes plays regular violin in the orchestra and she said that very often. I asked how much does she have to practice before such a performance to which she replied that it depends but very often she doesn't have to practice at all. She just reads the notes once, concludes that she can play it all figuring out finger tricks on the fly.

I think if you're so good as to approach full ZBLL you should have such a rich range of fingertricks and be so confident with executing them that it doesn't matter how you memorized an alg - you should be able to plan execution while learning the alg on virtual cube and execute it well the first time you try it on a cube.

disclaimer: it's a pure speculation.
 
I used it to learn algs for OH since the TPS difference wouldn't be as noticeable. To me, I found it was no worse than learning on alg the normal way, since you'll still be slow at it until you use it long enough to get into you muscle memory.
When you practice on the real cube, you also have to know how to do algs backwards to setup the case. Sometimes I can remember how my hands are moving and do this without thinking; other times I have to cheat and look at my alg sheet.

Is there any benefit to setting up cases manually (something that is automatic with the virtual cube)?
 
When you practice on the real cube, you also have to know how to do algs backwards to setup the case. Sometimes I can remember how my hands are moving and do this without thinking; other times I have to cheat and look at my alg sheet.

Is there any benefit to setting up cases manually (something that is automatic with the virtual cube)?
If you learn what case that set up solves, you basically would get two cases covered by learning one alg.
 
I had only brought my 8x8 along with my to campus since it was physically the biggest of my cubes (YLM 8x8 vs MJS 10x10), so after I got home I did a solve on both my 9x9 and 10x10 (and I left my 8x8 in my dorm over break). Well even if it's not the same cube, all the 8x8 cube practice that I'd done certainly payed off!

9x9 19:25 - 15:34.07
10x10 35:10 -> 19:17:36

And these are a actually a little bit faster (~10s) since my laptop went to sleep, so I had to wake it up and sign in again.
 
welp, looks like I broke my overall 3x3 single pb with a ridiculous lol scramble:

4.75 B2 R F D F D' L' D R2 U' F2 U R2 B2 U' L2 U' B2 F

y' x'
F D R // xCross
R' U R2 U' R2 U2 R // 2nd & 3rd Pairs
L U' L' // 4th Pair
r U R' U R U2 r' U2 // LL

4.42 TPS
21 moves is also FMC PB lol

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within the hour improved to 19 moves FMC PB

U L F D' R D2 R' D2 R2 D U R F D' F D F2 U' R2 (19)
 
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