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BenChristman1

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He is cheating.
to me, beginners method does not use M slice moves. They are impossible on a rubiks brand.
And beginners method is sexy move to turn corners. At least to me.
Just because somebody uses the beginner’s method doesn’t mean that they use a Rubik’s brand. In fact, most people who use the beginner’s method probably don’t use a Rubik’s brand, because most people who can solve a cube either do it often enough to invest in a speedcube, or they don’t solve cubes enough to bother buying a speedcube.
 

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Just because somebody uses the beginner’s method doesn’t mean that they use a Rubik’s brand. In fact, most people who use the beginner’s method probably don’t use a Rubik’s brand, because most people who can solve a cube either do it often enough to invest in a speedcube, or they don’t solve cubes enough to bother buying a speedcube.
What is beginners method to you ?
Is it anything that does layer by layer ?
So CMOP ? Cross - middle - OLL - PLL
 

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What is beginners method to you ?
Is it anything that does layer by layer ?
So CMOP ? Cross - middle - OLL - PLL
If it's a method that a beginner uses, it's a "beginner's method". Not sure why you're so insistent that beginner's method must be a very specific thing when there are many, many tutorials that teach many, many variations of the basic layer by layer method.

(And for the record, even when I was using a terrible completely non-fingertrickable cube, I still did use slice moves sometimes. (Executed as two normal moves, of course.) Sometimes slice moves are just the most intuitive way to solve something, like inserting a missing edge piece into the first layer.)
 

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If it's a method that a beginner uses, it's a "beginner's method". Not sure why you're so insistent that beginner's method must be a very specific thing when there are many, many tutorials that teach many, many variations of the basic layer by layer method.

(And for the record, even when I was using a terrible completely non-fingertrickable cube, I still did use slice moves sometimes. (Executed as two normal moves, of course.) Sometimes slice moves are just the most intuitive way to solve something, like inserting a missing edge piece into the first layer.)

Yup. Theres the baby method by gan, and the intermediate beginner method.

Baby method:
  • Solve the cross
  • Put in the corners
  • Put in the edges
  • F2L COMPLETED
  • Make a cross on the top with F R U R' U F'.
  • Reduce all cases to sunes and anti sunes with anti sune
  • OLL COMPLETED
  • Permute the corners with J perms.
  • Solve the edge plls with reverse u perms.
Intermediate beginner method
  • Solve the cross
  • Put in corners
  • Put in edges
  • F2L COMPLETED
  • Make a cross on the top with F R U R' U F', and f R U R' U' f'.
  • Solve the corner olls with the respective algorithms
  • OLL COMPLETED
  • Permute the corners with Y perm and J perm.
  • Solve the edge plls with the respective algorithms.
Some beginner methods use keyhole F2L, which is faster, some beginner methods learn most of the F2Ls. Beginner methods are really mix and match.
 

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  • Solve the cross
  • Put in corners
  • Put in edges
  • F2L COMPLETED
  • Make a cross on the top with F R U R' U F', and f R U R' U' f'.
  • Solve the corner olls with the respective algorithms
  • OLL COMPLETED
  • Permute the corners with Y perm and J perm.
  • Solve the edge plls with the respective algorithms.
So basically.
  • Cross
  • LBL F2L
  • 2 Look OLL
  • 2 Look PLL
Standard beginner's method
 

povlhp

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To me beginner methods are the ones that are easy, few algorithms.
The books from around 1980 is surely not a beginners method.
I see the J.Perm method with only 3 simple algorithms (sexy, sune, and the 3 corner swap) as a real beginners method. No letters needed.
If a beginner is taught F2L, it is not really a beginners method.
I know intuitive F2L can be taught without algorithms.

Using Sune to turn corners and permute edges later is considered beginners method as well, as it is still simple layer-by-layer. I think I read about that method somewhere.
 

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Guys. Daily puzzles now sponsored the largest youcuber with over 2 million subscribers, Mike Boyd XD

Woahhhh I saw that video previously but didn't know that they had sponsored him. Congrats to Daily Puzzles!!

Also, RedKB, Cuborithms, and Tingman all commented on the video!!
 
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View attachment 15873
Remember teir lists? Here's mine, you guys should make some too

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Well, here's mine and yes, cloncc is S tier worthy

E: oh wait, I made another one.
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cross with edges oriented is ZZ EOCross, Line with edges oriented is ofc vanilla ZZ, 223 with edges oriented is LEOR, 222 is Petrus
 
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