# Random Cubing Discussion

#### Kirjava

##### Colourful
Often I have ideas or thoughts that I'd like to post or discuss, but there doesn't exist a topic for. This happens a few times a week and usually consists of method ideas that don't yet merit their own threads - I resorted to discussing RouxZZ in the accomplishments thread, for example.

To start us off, I wanna post a video of kirjavaparity ^_^

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#### waffle=ijm

##### Waffo
O kirjava parity...sexy

#### hawkmp4

##### Member
That is a sexy parity.

#### ariasamie

##### Member
so actually it is going to be the new "I just realized that..." thread!

#### Kirjava

##### Colourful
so actually it is going to be the new "I just realized that..." thread!

I wouldn't post RANDOM stuff like this in that thread~

#### cincyaviation

##### Member
After getting 2 PLL skips in a row and like 6 corner permutation skips after doing CLS, i realized that you could theoretically learn a bunch of algs for each case to solve the corners almost every time, i just don't know how many algs you would need.

#### Kirjava

##### Colourful
For CLS or OLL?

OLLCP is quite popular already - I think CLS would be like a bajillion algs.

#### vcuber13

##### Member
well, if its 5 corners with 3 orientations, only half are possible, so it should be 5! x [3! / 2]
or
$$5! \times \frac{3!}{2}$$

$$=120 \times 3$$

$$=360$$

not sure if this is right, but I think so.

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#### Kirjava

##### Colourful
That sounds wrong :/ isn't it more like 104*6 = 624?

Also, recog would be fun. CLL with 5 corners XD

#### cincyaviation

##### Member
How many would it be to do CLS plus solve edges? corner perms are pretty fast too

#### vcuber13

##### Member
why 6?

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like 1 step mgls (or ls or whatever)?
21*104=~2100

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#### StachuK1992

##### statue
0.o
I have to start watching what I say if there are gonna be tons of IRC log links now!

#### Kirjava

##### Colourful
Except, not all six are distinguishable for symmetrical orientations.

Good point. That makes it an upper bound.

I can't think of how to work out the true number of cases without manually omitting cases I know are symmetrical. Any ideas?

it's fake

#### qqwref

##### Member
It's like ten turns. Just figure it out from the video, invert, execute on a solved cube.

#### ariasamie

##### Member
Can someone give 1 or more scrambles with green on front, white on top, which when I hold the cube like orange on front and yellow on top and I do old pochmann for BLD I don't have to break into new cycles at all. and can you tell me where you got them from?

#### vcuber13

##### Member
has anyone figured out the notation yet?