What cubes should be removed from the WCA?

[One Wheel]

Please explain why top cubers like Feliks Zemdegs and Max park endorse them.

The most probable explanation is that Gan 3x3s are actually the best on the market, by a very small margin. The cube might make the difference between a 6 second average and a 5.8 second average, so for people like Feliks and Max that matters. For anybody else it’s just throwing money away. Feliks and Max are highly coveted by cube advertisers, and never have to pay for speedcubes, precisely because people want to use the same cubes used by the best. It’s all marketing.

 

[Hazel]

But then there's clock... It doesn't seem to get much love or innovation and it has been a WCA event for a number of years now. I get the impression that to some people it's a joke and this has put me off buying one... and I would kind of like to buy one.

Similarly, folks seem to be down on Skewb despite it's WCA status and the wealth of hardware available and, as you said, curvy copter is popular despite the dearth of good puzzles and lack of WCA support.

I just find it puzzling (no pun intended).

A lot of people still very much enjoy Clock, myself included. If it wasn't a WCA event, I doubt anybody would still practice it. The reason there isn't innovation for clock is because well... there's not much to innovate on because it's such a simple puzzle.
As for Skewb, that's because it's one of the events that is down to luck at this point, and with Clock, it doesn't seem like there's anything left to innovate on.
What I meant by what I said about Curvy Copter is that nobody has really paid it much attention until it becoming an official event became in the realm of possibility. If the WCA directly said something like "we guarantee there is a 0% chance of curvy copter ever becoming an event and that is final", the traction that it's been gaining recently would very quickly die down to none or almost none.

 

[CubeBlazer]

I came at this for a community POV. The cubing community needs more followers and if we keep events such as multiblind and FMC these events aren't entertaining. I think we should:
REMOVE: FMC, multiblind, clock, and maybe feet.
ADD: 2BLD, and maybe a shape mod like mirror cube.
I think this would add to the community and help cubing grow as a sport

Eww 2BLD eww "remove FMC/MBLD/Clock/Feet" Don't.

 

[GAN 356 X]

Eww 2BLD eww "remove FMC/MBLD/Clock/Feet" Don't.

\2 blind would be pointless. FMC is unique, same with Multiblind. Clock and feet should be though

Mirror cube would be pretty useless, although I think Kilominx and curvy copter should be added

 

[Lapse.]

I think a new puzzle needs to be invented with the goals of speedsolving in mind to really justify adding it to the list. Sounds ridiculous but it shouldn't be too much to ask considering how advanced and creative puzzle designing has become, and how accessible it is. We could potentially even fund research on designing a WCA-worthy puzzle... but i'm just daydreaming.

 

[Iwannaganx]

I think a new puzzle needs to be invented with the goals of speedsolving in mind to really justify adding it to the list. Sounds ridiculous but it shouldn't be too much to ask considering how advanced and creative puzzle designing has become, and how accessible it is. We could potentially even fund research on designing a WCA-worthy puzzle... but i'm just daydreaming.

I would donate! If I had any money...
But I think if this happens we will have a great new puzzle, designed for speedsolving, that could revolutionise cubing forever

 

[Artemissimo]

I think 3x3 with feet and clock should be removed because not that many people like them that much. People are also not that serious about those events. Clock is not even a twisty puzzle. OH is like feet but OH makes sense.

clock is a puzzle and you can twist it so it's a twisty puzzle

 

[AbsoRuud]

clock is a puzzle and you can twist it so it's a twisty puzzle

YES!

 

[Iwannaganx]

clock is a puzzle and you can twist it so it's a twisty puzzle

But in theory doesn't this mean any physical puzzle with moving parts counts as a twisty puzzle? Either way it moves you could use a 'twisting' motion to move it, correct?

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

clock is a puzzle and you can twist it so it's a twisty puzzle

Do you think a person who can only solve the clock out of 18 WCA events is a cuber?

 

[kadabrium]

Whats the precise history behind the fact that both skewb and pyraminx are released and popularized much earlier than jings pyraminx?

 

[jakelevine]

Wouldn't the same overly simplistic logic apply to pyraminx and megaminx?

If you can solve mega you can solve a 3x3 and 2x2 at least.

 

[Mike Hughey]

If you can solve mega you can solve a 3x3 and 2x2 at least.

Mostly true, but pyraminx definitely doesn't fit that idea. Plenty of people have been able to solve a pyraminx, but unable to solve any kind of cube. My youngest daughter was one of those for a while; now she can solve a cube in 40 seconds, but she learned how to solve a pyraminx before she learned to solve a 3x3x3. And she learned 2x2x2 after 3x3x3.

 

[Artemissimo]

well h

Do you think a person who can only solve the clock out of 18 WCA events is a cuber?

he cant solve a CUBE then so no. also you might say that one who can solve mega isn't a cuber but he is cuz if u solve mega u can solve 3x3

 

[Artemissimo]

But in theory doesn't this mean any physical puzzle with moving parts counts as a twisty puzzle? Either way it moves you could use a 'twisting' motion to move it, correct?

give me an example, then we talk

 

[Parke187]

\2 blind would be pointless. FMC is unique, same with Multiblind. Clock and feet should be though

Mirror cube would be pretty useless, although I think Kilominx and curvy copter should be added

Imagine thimaking clock should be removed when you haven't even tried it lmfao

 

[Reizii_]

Imagine thimaking clock should be removed when you haven't even tried it lmfao

This. Don't voice an opinion for something you have no experiences with.

Anyway, I don't think any of them should be removed. Everything is fine as is, if you don't like an event just don't do it.

 

[GAN 356 X]

Whats the precise history behind the fact that both skewb and pyraminx are released and popularized much earlier than jings pyraminx?

Um, what even is Jings Pyraminx?

 

[Hazel]

Um, what even is Jings Pyraminx?

 

[GAN 356 X]

OK... Kinda looks like a mastermorphix that was born without a limb lol