The "Request an Alg" Thread

[Cuberstache]

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I have a question regarding an alg:

The most common alg (afaik) for the OLL with corners oriented and 2 adjacent edges misoriented is r U R’ U’ M U R U’ R’. I’ve always used (y2) M’ U M U2 M’ U M, and it’s always seemed much better to me. Why don’t more people use it?

There's a slight regrip you have to do to get your hand into and out of position to do the M turns

 

[ruffleduck]

Best is R' F R S R' F' R S'

 

[NmeCuber]

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I have a question regarding an alg:

The most common alg (afaik) for the OLL with corners oriented and 2 adjacent edges misoriented is r U R’ U’ M U R U’ R’. I’ve always used (y2) M’ U M U2 M’ U M, and it’s always seemed much better to me. Why don’t more people use it?

This one is better for me y' M' U' M U2 M' U' M

 

[imapickle07]

Could anyone provide me with a decent Na and Nb perm? I can't find any good ones.

I don't really have a good Na but for Nb I like to use r' D F r U' r' F' D' r2 U r' U' r' F r F'
it definitely looks a lot more confusing than it is the last few moves are pretty much just a fat sledge which makes it easier its also way faster (for me at least) than the setup moves into jperm

 

[imapickle07]

Together with F2 M2 F2 U F2 M2 F2 you'll always be able to cancel two moves.

Face optimal H-PLL : R L U2 R' L' (y) R' L' U2 R L




I do that in the RUL version, last move of first repetition and first move of the second together.


Edit:



This mabye, (x) R2 U2 M R U r' U2 l U' r U2 M' U'

Looks much the same as Lucas alg and I guess he also got it from modifying the face optimal one you get from cube explorer.

Here are more, but you have to sort it (I did as Chris said, the stupid search instead of telling how, but Cube Explorer, not ACube =)

Spoiler

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Searching depth 12

Searching depth 13

U F2 R2 F2 B U' B L2 F' D B' L2 S' z (13f*)
U M U2 L' B R' U2 L F' R2 L D2 R2 x (13f*)
U2 F' L B' U2 F R' F B2 D2 B2 R S z' (13f*)
U2 B L' F U2 B' R F2 B' D2 F2 R' S z' (13f*)
U2 S U B2 L2 F B2 U' F R2 B' D F' z' (13f*)
U2 S U' F2 L2 F2 B' U B' R2 F D' B z' (13f*)
U' B2 R2 F' B2 U F' L2 B D' F L2 S' z (13f*)
U' M' U2 L F' R U2 L' B R2 L' D2 R2 x' (13f*)
R2 U2 D M U2 L B' R D2 L' F L D2 x (13f*)
R2 U2 D' M' U2 L' F R' D2 L B' L' D2 x' (13f*)
R2 F2 R2 L' U L' B2 R D' L B2 M' B' x' (13f*)
R2 D L U2 M U2 B' R D2 L' F L D2 x (13f*)
R2 D' L' U2 M' U2 F R' D2 L B' L' D2 x' (13f*)
R2 B2 R2 L U' L F2 R' D L' F2 M F x (13f*)
F R' B U2 F' L F' B2 D2 B2 L' S' L2 z (13f*)
F2 L' U' L F2 R' D L' B2 M' B2 F' R2 x' (13f*)
F2 L' U' L F2 R' D B2 M' B2 L' F' R2 x' (13f*)
B2 L U L' B2 R D' F2 M F2 L B R2 x (13f*)
B2 L U L' B2 R D' L F2 M F2 B R2 x (13f*)
B' R F' U2 B L' F2 B D2 F2 L S' L2 z (13f*)
S' U F2 R2 F2 B U' B L2 F' D B' L2 z (13f*)
S' U' B2 R2 F' B2 U F' L2 B D' F L2 z (13f*)
S U2 F' L B' U2 F R' F B2 D2 B2 R z' (13f*)
S U2 B L' F U2 B' R F2 B' D2 F2 R' z' (13f*)
Searching depth 14
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N-PLL search using all moves:

Spoiler

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Searching depth 13

R U' R2 F2 U' R F2 R' U F2 R2 U R' (13f*)
R D' F2 L2 D' L B2 L' D L2 F2 D R' (13f*)
R2 U2 F2 U' R2 U2 R2 F2 U' F2 U2 F2 R2 (13f*)
R2 F2 U2 F2 U F2 R2 U2 R2 U F2 U2 R2 (13f*)
R2 D2 F2 D' R' L' B2 D2 M B R2 F2 U2 x (13f*)
R' U R2 F2 D L' B2 L D' F2 R2 U' R (13f*)
R' U L' U2 R U' M' B L' B2 R B' L x' (13f*)
R' D B2 R2 U L' B2 L U' R2 B2 D' R (13f*)
F2 U2 L2 D' M B2 D2 R L B U2 B2 L2 x (13f*)
L U' L2 B2 U' L B2 L' U B2 L2 U L' (13f*)
L D' B2 R2 D' R F2 R' D R2 B2 D L' (13f*)
L2 U2 B2 U' L2 U2 L2 B2 U' B2 U2 B2 L2 (13f*)
L2 D2 B2 D' R' L' F2 D2 M' F L2 B2 U2 x' (13f*)
L2 B2 U2 B2 U B2 L2 U2 L2 U B2 U2 L2 (13f*)
L' U R' U2 L U' M F R' F2 L F' R x (13f*)
L' U L2 B2 D R' F2 R D' B2 L2 U' L (13f*)
L' D F2 L2 U R' F2 R U' L2 F2 D' L (13f*)
B2 U2 R2 D' M' F2 D2 R L F U2 F2 R2 x' (13f*)
Searching depth 14
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is it not better to do the M move hperm the M2 U' M2 U2 M2 U' M2? i might be wrong but I thought with the M and U moves it was the fastest

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I don't really have a good Na but for Nb I like to use r' D F r U' r' F' D' r2 U r' U' r' F r F'
it definitely looks a lot more confusing than it is the last few moves are pretty much just a fat sledge which makes it easier its also way faster (for me at least) than the setup moves into jperm

I feel like 13 years is enough time for him to have found an alg himself

 

[Cubinginatree]

I need to learn the last couple PLL's Gc and Gd. What algs should I learn?

 

[Caden Fisher]

I need to learn the last couple PLL's Gc and Gd. What algs should I learn?

I’d recommend Cubehead’s algs

 

[Garf]

I need to learn the last couple PLL's Gc and Gd. What algs should I learn?

I’d recommend Cubehead’s algsView attachment 21904

Gc alg that @Caden Fisher suggests is good for beginners, but not if you want to use really advanced algs. Would recommend RUD, as it is really fun to use once you figure out the fingertricks.

 

[imapickle07]

I feel like 13 years is enough time for him to have found an alg himself

bro i didnt even realize it was so long ago lmao my bad

 

[Cuber987]

What alg do you use for ortega if there's one bar on the bottom and that's it?

 

[lucazdoescubingstuff]

I’d recommend Cubehead’s algsView attachment 21904

are there cubehead algs for all the g perms? if so, send me link

 

[Hazel]

I remember someone saying that Anthony Brooks’ ZBLL alg pdf has pretty outdated algs, anyone have a better one?

 

[ProStar]

What alg do you use for ortega if there's one bar on the bottom and that's it?

Hold the bar to the left and do R2 U R2 U’ R2 U R2 U’ R2

(wrote it off of memory so it may be wrong, but it just alternates R2 and U/U’)

are there cubehead algs for all the g perms? if so, send me link

My G Perms (always hold headlights on left):

Ga (bar on front): R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R2 D U' R' U R D'

Gb (bar on right back): R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 D

Gc (bar on back): R2 U' R U' R U R' U R2 D' U R U' R' D

Gd (bar on right front): R U R' U' D R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 D’

I remember someone saying that Anthony Brooks’ ZBLL alg pdf has pretty outdated algs, anyone have a better one?

Ooh, interested in ZBLL are we?

I’ve obviously not learnt ZBLL, so it’s probably worth waiting for someone who knows what they’re doing to answer, but I believe SpeedCubeDB has good algs. They have multiple options for most of them and also have a “from competitive solves” feature where you can see what algs were used for that case by top cubers.

@GenTheSnail what algorithms did you learn?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I remember someone saying that Anthony Brooks’ ZBLL alg pdf has pretty outdated algs, anyone have a better one?

I get my algs from algdb.net, which has multiple options per alg, so often there will be a good option there. For some cases I use a different alg than the ones algdb offers, it's really just a matter of comparing sources and finding something you like.

 

[ProStar]

I get my algs from algdb.net, which has multiple options per alg, so often there will be a good option there. For some cases I use a different alg than the ones algdb offers, it's really just a matter of comparing sources and finding something you like.

The only issue with AlgDB is it has the same problems as Anthony Brooks’ algs; it hasn’t been updated in years and as a result, a lot of the voting on the “top” algs are all outdated and don’t actually show the best algs for the time.

AlgDB is always a great source for algs in general though

 

[Cuber987]

Hold the bar to the left and do R2 U R2 U’ R2 U R2 U’ R2

(wrote it off of memory so it may be wrong, but it just alternates R2 and U/U’)




My G Perms (always hold headlights on left):

Ga (bar on front): R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R2 D U' R' U R D'

Gb (bar on right back): R' U' R U D' R2 U R' U R U' R U' R2 D

Gc (bar on back): R2 U' R U' R U R' U R2 D' U R U' R' D

Gd (bar on right front): R U R' U' D R2 U' R U' R' U R' U R2 D’



Ooh, interested in ZBLL are we?

I’ve obviously not learnt ZBLL, so it’s probably worth waiting for someone who knows what they’re doing to answer, but I believe SpeedCubeDB has good algs. They have multiple options for most of them and also have a “from competitive solves” feature where you can see what algs were used for that case by top cubers.

@GenTheSnail what algorithms did you learn?

Thanks!

 

[Caden Fisher]

are there cubehead algs for all the g perms? if so, send me link

This is the pdf from Cubehead’s Pll video. It has all of the Plls https://www.youtube.com/redirect?ev...il8l2-57axbMXn/view?usp=sharing&v=bnCTA5JPKuQ

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

I've got V perm left to be able to do full one-look PLL. I don't mind having L moves or longer algs, but I don't want to do wide moves, slice moves, D moves or cube rotations. Any nice V perm algs for me?

 

[OreKehStrah]

I remember someone saying that Anthony Brooks’ ZBLL alg pdf has pretty outdated algs, anyone have a better one?

Daniel V. Egdal's Algs - Speed Cube Database

Free online speedcubing algorithm and reconstruction database, covers every algorithm for 2x2 - 6x6, SQ1 and Megaminx including F2L, OLL, PLL, COLL, ZBLL, WV and much more

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