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I use (R B' R' F) (R B R' F') (R B R' F) (R B' R' F')
It flows nicely. All B and F' are with my left hand while the B' and F are with my right
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I use (R B' R' F) (R B R' F') (R B R' F) (R B' R' F')
It flows nicely. All B and F' are with my left hand while the B' and F are with my right
ketchuphater999
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To make the execution easier to understand, you can make it this:
x' (R U' R' D) (R U R' D') (R U R' D) (R U' R' D')
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Animorpher13
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Whats A good Nb perm? I found tehse two (R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R) (R' U L' U2 R U' L R' U L' U2 R U' L), but i was just wondering if there are other good ones as well. And, on the topic of N perms, how is this Na Perm? (R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R'). Sorry for all the alg questions, I just really want to finish multi-angle PBL and Full PLL
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Randomno
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obelisk477
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N(b): z D' R U' R2 D R' U D' R U' R2 D R' U z'
As for the N(a), it's the most popular one according to algdb.net
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slords17
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What are the 5x5 Parity Algorithms?
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slords17: the only extra alg you need is Lw' U2 Lw' U2 x U2 Lw' U2 3Lw U2 Rw' U2 3Rw2.
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slords17
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What is the Parity for OLL and PLL?
Randomno
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You can't get 5x5 OLL or PLL parity.
slords17
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Really, sweet!
Lazy Einstein
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Rw' U2 Rw' U2’ x’ U2 Rw' U2’ 3Rw U2 Lw' U2 Rw2
unsolved
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Give me a position to test. I have a 5x5x5 solver that outputs solutions in SiGN.
https://alg.cubing.net/?puzzle=5x5x...__U2__2R__2U2_2D2_2R-_2L__2D2_2U2_2L-_U2__2R-
But you can end up with something like this:
https://alg.cubing.net/?puzzle=5x5x...D2_2B-_3R-_D_R2_D-_3R_2B_D-_2B2&view=playback
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TDM
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The link doesn't appear to load on mobile, but I can say without having to see it, that you don't get OLL or PLL parity on 5x5.
unsolved
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You are mistaken. And, you will note, I used the terms "but" along with "something like," which, by definition, acknowledges the difference between what you said and my aforementioned example, yet points out something similar as well, and that something was not observed by you, through your own admission.
So you obviously don't "get" the use of certain conjunctions and their use when joined with similes.
Christopher Mowla
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Certainly the PLL permutation r2 F2 U2 2R2 U2 F2 r2 occurs on the 5x5x5 and so does z d' M D 3l' u' 2R' u 3l u' 3l2' b' 2R' b r' R' 2-3u y' M' u x2 z'.
TDM is thinking strictly in terms of the 3x3x3 reduction method (and all of its variants). The actual instances of OLL and PLL parity do occur on the 5x5x5 cube in 3x3x3 reduction, but in the edge pairing stage of reduction. He probably classifies both of these cases as "edge parity" rather than calling them "OLL" and "PLL" parity because solvers are encouraged to handle these two "edge parity cases" in the "edge pairing stage" of reduction rather than leaving them for the last layer stage in which the acronyms OLL and PLL are used for the 3x3x3 method CFOP, for example. Once a reduction solver solves the first four layers of the 5x5x5 with reduction, all tredges are complete and thus "there is no such thing as OLL or PLL parity on odd cubes".
This topic has been discussed so many times in the past, and the conclusion has always been that the main problem is the term "OLL Parity". It should instead be called "odd parity" in all solving methods.
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TDM
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I interpreted your 'but' to imply you disagreed with Randomno, not that you were actually agreeing but talking about a slightly different point. I don't think I would have had any trouble understanding what you meant if I had seen the case you were referring to.
Yes, I should have been more specific, sorry. I assumed the person asking the question would be using standard reduction.
unsolved
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I like this for solving that case:
https://alg.cubing.net/?puzzle=5x5x5&setup=z_d-_M_D_3l-_u-_2R-_u_3l_u-_3l2-_b-_2R-_b_r-_R-_2%26%2345%3B3u_y-_M-_u_x2_z-&view=playback&alg=2R2_D2_2R-_F2_2R_F2_D2_2R_D2_2L-_F2_2L_F2_D2_2R2
It's the minimum number of moves and needs no cube re-orienting. It's my second favorite way to solve that, next to the Holy Grail method
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