One-Answer 3x3x3 Question Thread

[Chinmay47]

You have all the edges solved, I don't know how you would solve it using J perms because J perms swap both corners and edge. You could do Sune since 2 J perms are a U move.

But that's cheating right? We have to use only JPerms and there must be a solution to this case. I dont remember correctly but I saw JPERM doing the trial method for finding the correct orientation of the yellow corners. But I guess that went above my head!:confused: :?:confused: :?

In simple words, I just need to orient the corners of the last layer, and I'll do the rest myself
.
.
.
Can someone help/?

 

[Username: Username:]

But that's cheating right? We have to use only JPerms and there must be a solution to this case. I dont remember correctly but I saw JPERM doing the trial method for finding the correct orientation of the yellow corners. But I guess that went above my head!:confused: :?:confused: :?

In simple words, I just need to orient the corners of the last layer, and I'll do the rest myself
.
.
.
Can someone help/?

before you were done with F2L, you could have done something like last slot OLL to orient the LL using no algorithms other than J perm to simulate quarter turns during last slot.

 

[Chinmay47]

before you were done with F2L, you could have done something like last slot OLL to orient the LL using no algorithms other than J perm to simulate quarter turns during last slot.

I have no idea what you just said. Can you please elaborate on this? What's last slot OLL and how do I use QTM s for this challenge

 

[Username: Username:]

I have no idea what you just said. Can you please elaborate on this? What's last slot OLL and how do I use QTM s for this challenge

I think you're confused about this. If you're confused, J perm said you could cheat a little and do an algorithm other than J perm like sune but you'll have to do it using only J perms.

 

[Chinmay47]

I think you're confused about this. If you're confused, J perm said you could cheat a little and do an algorithm other than J perm like sune but you'll have to do it using only J perms.

Very well! Can you teach me how to do the Sune using only JPERMs?

 

[Username: Username:]

Very well! Can you teach me how to do the Sune using only JPERMs?

If I explain it, its a bit confusing to teach it with you, you should watch J perms's video, he explains it more clearly than me.

 

[ProStar]

But that's cheating right? We have to use only JPerms and there must be a solution to this case. I dont remember correctly but I saw JPERM doing the trial method for finding the correct orientation of the yellow corners. But I guess that went above my head!:confused: :?:confused: :?

In simple words, I just need to orient the corners of the last layer, and I'll do the rest myself
.
.
.
Can someone help/?

J Perm explains in his video a way to do EO before inserting the last edge, as well as a way to do CO. That way when you insert the last edge, you skip OLL. Watch his video more closely for an explanation of how to do it. Username was saying you can do JPerm*3 to do a U move, and so theoretically you could just rotate, then do JPerm*3 for an R, rotate back, use it to do a U move, etc.. J Perm explains that in his vid also

 

[FinnTheCuber]

I need tips on learning full alg sets in general.

 

[ProStar]

I need tips on learning full alg sets in general.

CubeHead has a great vid on learning algs

 

[FinnTheCuber]

CubeHead has a great vid on learning algs

Thanks!

 

[Username: Username:]

I need tips on learning full alg sets in general.

There are tips for learning only individual alg sets, there is no one size fits all tip for that, what set are you learning?

 

[FinnTheCuber]

There are tips for learning only individual alg sets, there is no one size fits all tip for that, what set are you learning?

Full eg, cll and oll.

 

[Username: Username:]

Full eg, cll and oll.

For full EG, you need to work on your recognition and drill your algs, you may forget some because you didn't use them, although there are many cases, it's not really hard since it's divided into 2 sets.

Full CLL is easier than EG, same as EG, work on your CLL recognition there are not that many algs for CLL so recognition's not that hard too.

For full OLL I'd say it's just recalling your algs by using an OLL trainer and learn at least one OLL a day.

 

[ProStar]

Full eg, cll and oll.

There are tons of vids on OLL specifically. Learning 2x2 algs is pretty easy, just learn several(like maybe the Eg-1 T set) and then train them(J Perm has trainers for all of them). Then once you've got those solid, go onto another set(preferably doing an entire alg set first(like all of Eg-1)) and repeat until you've finished the alg set. Since the EGs and CLL are very similar, you should be able to do the same strat for all of them

For full EG, you need to work on your recognition and drill you algs, you may forget some because you didn't use them, although there are many cases, it's not really hard since it's divided into 2 sets.

Full CLL is easier than EG, same as EG, work on your CLL recognition there are not that many algs for CLL so recognition's not that hard too.

Recognition is the same, and EG-1, EG-2, and CLL all have 42 algs. I'd recommend EG-1 first since adj swap is easier than a layer, plus algs are normally better

 

[FinnTheCuber]

For full EG, you need to work on your recognition and drill your algs, you may forget some because you didn't use them, although there are many cases, it's not really hard since it's divided into 2 sets.

Full CLL is easier than EG, same as EG, work on your CLL recognition there are not that many algs for CLL so recognition's not that hard too.

For full OLL I'd say it's just recalling your algs by using an OLL trainer and learn at least one OLL a day.

Thank you so much!

 

[fun at the joy]

Just to clarify, full EG includes CLL.

 

[ProStar]

Just to clarify, full EG includes CLL.

Yeah, EG contains 3 sets:

EG-1 - Has an adj swap on bottom
EG-2 - Has diag swap on bottom
CLL/EG-0 - Has layer on bottom

 

[Username: Username:]

There are tons of vids on OLL specifically. Learning 2x2 algs is pretty easy, just learn several(like maybe the Eg-1 T set) and then train them(J Perm has trainers for all of them). Then once you've got those solid, go onto another set(preferably doing an entire alg set first(like all of Eg-1)) and repeat until you've finished the alg set. Since the EGs and CLL are very similar, you should be able to do the same strat for all of them



Recognition is the same, and EG-1, EG-2, and CLL all have 42 algs. I'd recommend EG-1 first since adj swap is easier than a layer, plus algs are normally better

recognition on CLL in LL is a teeny tiny bit faster since you don't need to see what set it is whether its EG-1 or EG-2 but yeah EG is definitely faster..

 

[ProStar]

recognition on CLL in LL is a teeny tiny bit faster since you don't need to see what set it is whether its EG-1 or EG-2 but yeah EG is definitely faster..

No it's not, in inspection you plan out your adj swap face, and almost always making an adj swap face is easier than a layer. The only thing you recognize is your LL case, which is the exact same as CLL

 

[Cubing5life]

I just finished learning COLL and I will spend around a week getting good at the algs/recognition, but which algorithm set should I learn next? (I am getting CN now, but on white/yellow I average around 11.7 globally) And I if I learn WV I can only use COLL when I do some kind of VHLS, right?