10.48 ZZ method avg12

9.31, (17.96), 12.01, 10.20, (9.15), 10.27, 9.28, 10.98, 11.29, 9.74, 12.10, 9.64 = 10.48

Bolded is a 9.92 avg5

Average of 12: 10.48
1. 9.31 L2 B2 R2 D2 B' D2 B U2 F' L2 F D F R' D R2 B F2 L U' B2
2. (17.96) R2 F L2 B' U2 R2 U2 B F L2 F' U' B R' B F L' U' B U F
3. 12.01 R U' B2 D2 F R U' B U' R F2 R' F2 R B2 U2 R' D2 R F2
4. 10.20 R' L D2 R' U2 F' R' B' D F2 U2 F2 D2 R B2 L' U2 L2 F2
5. (9.15) U' R2 B2 U L2 F2 D2 U' F2 U' F2 R D' R2 F' D' U' B R F2 D'
6. 10.27 L2 B2 U2 F' L2 F' R2 U2 R2 B' L2 D' L U F D2 F L B' R' B'
7. 9.28 D B2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 U F2 D' F' L' D' B' F2 U2 B U2 R2 B2
8. 10.98 L2 F2 U2 F2 D' B2 L2 U R2 U F L U' F2 D' F2 D B L' R' F
9. 11.29 D2 R2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U' R2 F2 U L' F D2 U' B2 L' U' R2 F2 D2
10. 9.74 F2 D' B2 D' R2 F2 U B2 U' L2 D2 B' D B U' B2 L' R2 F
11. 12.10 D2 R2 F' D2 F U2 F D2 R2 U2 F L D' B F2 L' B2 R2 B D F'
12. 9.64 U2 D2 R' U' R' B R2 F U2 F U R2 U2 R2 F2 U' F2 L2 U2 R2 D2

Hmm. Sub 10 should be possible...

A 3 method neutral sub 10 AO12, would be pretty awesome.
 
59.93 2-3-4 relay PB single first sub 1 yay

2x2) R2 F2 U F' U2 F R2 U2 R'
3x3) B2 F2 D' B2 U2 L2 D L2 U L2 D2 B' L' B2 U2 F D' F2 R D2
4x4) f D B' R' f2 R2 D' f2 u2 r2 D2 U R2 F' r2 B2 F U' u' L2 R2 D' F L2 F L R' r' U' u' R' U B U' u2 f L' U
 
Average of 12: 11.19
1. 9.71 B R2 B' D2 R2 F2 D2 R2 F' D2 L' B' F' R' U B L D R' F'
2. 9.64 F' D2 L2 B D2 F' D2 F R2 F2 D' R' F2 U R F L' U' R B2 U'
3. (14.61) F2 R2 B2 D' R2 U' L2 D F2 U' F U' F' R D' U' F' D2 B2 L
4. 11.58 R U2 B2 F2 L D2 L' U2 R' U2 L2 F U2 B D' R B' F L2 F R2
5. 9.77 L2 B' R2 F2 U2 L2 D2 F' U2 B' F' L' U B2 R' U' F L' D2 R' F'
6. 13.00 F2 L2 F' U2 L2 R2 B' D2 F R2 D' B2 L R' B' F' D' R' F' D2 L'
7. 11.16 D R2 L' U' F U B R L' B' L2 U B2 U2 R2 U' B2 D F2 D2
8. 12.71 D2 B2 R D2 U2 B2 L R2 D2 L' R' F' L2 U' L2 R D' R F2 U2 R'
9. 9.86 L2 U2 L F2 L' B2 D2 F2 U2 R2 U2 B L D R2 B' F' D2 U L D
10. 11.57 D F2 U L2 D B2 U F2 L2 R2 D2 B U' B' D2 F L F2 R D L
11. (9.29) L2 U2 B R2 B' R2 F U2 B2 R2 F' U R' U2 L' D2 U2 F2 R' D2
12. 12.92 D2 B R' U2 B' R2 L' D R L2 D2 B2 L2 D2 F2 L2 B L2 F' R2

Maybe nothing special, but first OH solves on Shengshou Aurora since 2013.

Wuuut so many 9s.
 
it's happening now, 3 methods sub 10!

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Does this count as a method though? If not, I'll have to find another method for my "sub 10 with 10 methods" video...

A 3 method neutral sub 10 AO12, would be pretty awesome.

That's actually a really cool idea. I can't believe I haven't tried doing this for Roux and CFOP yet...

I would have to do it as a rotation though, (eg. every third solve is CFOP) or else I would just end up choosing CFOP every time :P
 

:( You got any other methods you think I could get sub 10 on? I could just link with an annotation on my "sub 10 with 10 methods" video. Is COL a method? I think you used it as one in one of your videos...

If the requirement is that I need it to be a named method, could I use rouxfop? Like F2B -> CMLL -> F2L ->ELL (or F2B -> F2L -> OLL -> PLL)?

My argument for it being a method would be that, first of all, it feels like a different method, and secondly, a roux user would find it hard to use this method and vice versa.

Edit: Does 4 F2L pairs -> CMLL -> F2B -> LSE count as PCMS? Because I have a 9.57 of that on video. Do you have to place the BD edge and do that L5E stuff for it to be counted as PCMS?
 
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:( You got any other methods you think I could get sub 10 on? I could just link with an annotation on my "sub 10 with 10 methods" video. Is COL a method? I think you used it as one in one of your videos...
PCMS, CF, and probably any of whatever Kirjava used in his sub-20 with 20 methods video. I'd count COL as a separate method.

If the requirement is that I need it to be a named method, could I use rouxfop? Like F2B -> CMLL -> F2L ->ELL (or F2B -> F2L -> OLL -> PLL)?
I don't think that's a requirement, but that method is just a lazy version of one method, trying to make it similar to a person's main method to get good times with the original method (even though it's now changed). That's why I don't think it should be considered a separate method - it's not really a method, just a shortcut. I think you could use it as a replacement for either method (e.g. do CFOP and RouxFOP but no Roux), but not as a completely separate method.

My argument for it being a method would be that, first of all, it feels like a different method, and secondly, a roux user would find it hard to use this method and vice versa.
But a Roux user would find F2B -> F2L -> LL easier than a CFOP solver (probably, if they knew LL algs). Like I said before, it's not really a different method - it's created as an attempt to make Roux solving easier for a CFOP user.

Edit: Does 4 F2L pairs -> CMLL -> F2B -> LSE count as PCMS? Because I have a 9.57 of that on video. Do you have to place the BD edge and do that L5E stuff for it to be counted as PCMS?
I use your method and call it PCMS, but... it's a bit like the CFOP-Roux thing. It's not really how PCMS should be, it's trying to make it easier for us, so it's half-"cheating". However if you don't do PCMS with L5E as a separate method then I'll be fine with it.


These are just my opinions btw - you don't have to listen to them! I'm not the only person you're making the video for :p
 
6.36 3x3 PB single :p

F2 U B2 D2 L2 B2 R2 B2 D B2 D' B F2 R2 U2 F2 U F D F'

z2 y D2 L U' R' U R' U' R //cross +1
y' U2 R U' R' U2 R U' R' //F2L2
y L U L' //F2L3
U2 R U R' U2 R U R' // F2L
R U2 R D R' U2 R D' R2 //COLL + EPLL skip.

Previous PB was 7.39 lol.
 
:( You got any other methods you think I could get sub 10 on? I could just link with an annotation on my "sub 10 with 10 methods" video. Is COL a method? I think you used it as one in one of your videos...

If the requirement is that I need it to be a named method, could I use rouxfop? Like F2B -> CMLL -> F2L ->ELL (or F2B -> F2L -> OLL -> PLL)?

My argument for it being a method would be that, first of all, it feels like a different method, and secondly, a roux user would find it hard to use this method and vice versa.

Edit: Does 4 F2L pairs -> CMLL -> F2B -> LSE count as PCMS? Because I have a 9.57 of that on video. Do you have to place the BD edge and do that L5E stuff for it to be counted as PCMS?

I'd say after you make the columns you can do whatever you want for L8E and it still count as a method.
 
new pbs are bolded

Generated By csTimer on 2015-8-17
solves/total: 4000/4000

single
best: 6.00
worst: 11.68

mean of 3
current: 8.16 (σ = 0.16)
best: 7.73 (σ = 1.36)

avg of 5
current: 8.29 (σ = 0.14)
best: 7.80 (σ = 0.74)

avg of 12
current: 8.56 (σ = 0.33)
best: 8.29 (σ = 0.36)

avg of 50
current: 8.94 (σ = 0.40)
best: 8.68 (σ = 0.34)

avg of 100
current: 8.88 (σ = 0.37)
best: 8.71 (σ = 0.35)

avg of 1000
current: 9.07 (σ = 0.42)
best: 9.07 (σ = 0.42)
 
new pbs are bolded

Generated By csTimer on 2015-8-17
solves/total: 4000/4000

single
best: 6.00
worst: 11.68

mean of 3
current: 8.16 (σ = 0.16)
best: 7.73 (σ = 1.36)

avg of 5
current: 8.29 (σ = 0.14)
best: 7.80 (σ = 0.74)

avg of 12
current: 8.56 (σ = 0.33)
best: 8.29 (σ = 0.36)

avg of 50
current: 8.94 (σ = 0.40)
best: 8.68 (σ = 0.34)

avg of 100
current: 8.88 (σ = 0.37)
best: 8.71 (σ = 0.35)

avg of 1000
current: 9.07 (σ = 0.42)
best: 9.07 (σ = 0.42)
Wtf... How much Do you practise per day?
 
I'd count COL as a separate method.

Oh, then that's easy :)
I don't think that's a requirement, but that method is just a lazy version of one method, trying to make it similar to a person's main method to get good times with the original method (even though it's now changed). That's why I don't think it should be considered a separate method - it's not really a method, just a shortcut. I think you could use it as a replacement for either method (e.g. do CFOP and RouxFOP but no Roux), but not as a completely separate method.

Makes sense. I was also thinking that it's a bit like making a method where you do a T perm before LL and calling it CFTOP. Would be pretty easy to sub10 lol.

I use your method and call it PCMS, but... it's a bit like the CFOP-Roux thing. It's not really how PCMS should be, it's trying to make it easier for us, so it's half-"cheating". However if you don't do PCMS with L5E as a separate method then I'll be fine with it.

These are just my opinions btw - you don't have to listen to them! I'm not the only person you're making the video for [emoji14]

I'd say after you make the columns you can do whatever you want for L8E and it still count as a method.
Tell you what, this is what I'll do. I'll make a COL sub 10 video and I'll upload it along with my "PCMS" solve as an unlisted video and link to it in the description. Just in case. It's not like people really care about this. Sub x with x methods is pretty silly anyway (it's these method neutral avg12s that really matter [emoji14]).
 
Oh, then that's easy :)
*cries*

Tell you what, this is what I'll do. I'll make a COL sub 10 video and I'll upload it along with my "PCMS" solve as an unlisted video and link to it in the description. Just in case. It's not like people really care about this. Sub x with x methods is pretty silly anyway (it's these method neutral avg12s that really matter [emoji14]).
Ok. And yeah, sub-x with x methods is definitely silly, method neutral is clearly important. And I'm definitely not saying this because I don't do sub-x with x methods ;)
 
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