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I don't know how you could think that. The goal isn't to be sub a certain speed; the goal is to be as fast as possible. Good lookahead is necessary for that. He'll be much faster with great turning and great lookahead than with great turning and mediocre lookahead. Maybe lookahead is not necessary for him to be sub 9, but it's still necessary.
I agree, I mean it's not as necessary for him to be at his speed. They are many more cubers who don't see their first pair or have bad look ahead, but Antoine's case is exceptional because of his average.

That's actually unfortunate--great TPS and bad lookahead would be a better fit for someone who knows a ton of algs. Your physical solving style doesn't fit your mental solving style, haha.

I wouldn't mind Antoine's TPS that's for sure.
 
8.09 3x3 single! Second best! Lol the ll was the same as my PB..
Scramble : F D2 F2 L2 D' U' F2 L2 U F2 U2 L2 B' L2 R' B2 D' L2 U2 R' U2
Inspection : x2 y'
Cross : R' L F' D F' L D2
1st Pair : U' R U2 R' y' U R' U' R
2nd Pair : U L' U L U2 y L U L'
3rd Pair : U' L' U' L
4th Pair : U R' U R U2 R' U R
OLL : Fw R U R' U' Fw'
PLL : U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L
52 / 8.09 = 6.43 TPS
 
Generated By csTimer on 2015-8-16
avg of 12: 7.89

Time List:
1. 7.69 B L F' L' F2 D' L' D R2 F D2 F D2 F' L2 F D2 F L2 R'
2. 7.14 R2 F2 L2 D2 B2 F2 R2 F2 D' B2 U L B2 R U F R' B F D' R'
3. 7.78 B' L2 B2 R2 D2 F2 D2 F2 D B2 D F2 R F' D' U' L2 B' D' F2 L
4. (9.55) D2 L U2 L B2 R' U2 R2 F2 D2 B' U' L D L' F2 D2 F' L' D'
5. 7.22 U2 B L2 F' B U' F2 U' R2 U2 R2 L' U2 R U2 F2 U2 D2
6. 7.60 D2 F2 L2 D2 L2 R B2 L2 R2 D R2 F R2 F L R2 D2 B'
7. 7.87 R' B2 U' L2 U F2 U' L2 R2 D2 B2 F' L2 D2 F' L' U2 L2 B' R
8. (6.93) R2 F2 R B2 R' F2 D2 R D2 L2 R' U' L2 D2 B D' B F L B
9. 8.89 F B2 R' F2 L' B2 D2 B2 R2 D2 R' F2 D B' D F' D2 U' B' R F2
10. 7.90 U2 R2 B2 F2 U L2 R2 F2 U B2 R2 L U' B2 R B' L2 B2 F' L' B'
11. 7.96 U L2 B' U2 D' L' U B2 R' L2 D' L2 U' F2 B2 D' L2 B2 U' D'
12. 8.86 F' R' U2 F2 R2 D2 U2 R' B2 D2 R2 B' D L2 B2 L' B' D'
 
10.48 ZZ method avg12

9.31, (17.96), 12.01, 10.20, (9.15), 10.27, 9.28, 10.98, 11.29, 9.74, 12.10, 9.64 = 10.48

Bolded is a 9.92 avg5

Average of 12: 10.48
1. 9.31 L2 B2 R2 D2 B' D2 B U2 F' L2 F D F R' D R2 B F2 L U' B2
2. (17.96) R2 F L2 B' U2 R2 U2 B F L2 F' U' B R' B F L' U' B U F
3. 12.01 R U' B2 D2 F R U' B U' R F2 R' F2 R B2 U2 R' D2 R F2
4. 10.20 R' L D2 R' U2 F' R' B' D F2 U2 F2 D2 R B2 L' U2 L2 F2
5. (9.15) U' R2 B2 U L2 F2 D2 U' F2 U' F2 R D' R2 F' D' U' B R F2 D'
6. 10.27 L2 B2 U2 F' L2 F' R2 U2 R2 B' L2 D' L U F D2 F L B' R' B'
7. 9.28 D B2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 U F2 D' F' L' D' B' F2 U2 B U2 R2 B2
8. 10.98 L2 F2 U2 F2 D' B2 L2 U R2 U F L U' F2 D' F2 D B L' R' F
9. 11.29 D2 R2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U' R2 F2 U L' F D2 U' B2 L' U' R2 F2 D2
10. 9.74 F2 D' B2 D' R2 F2 U B2 U' L2 D2 B' D B U' B2 L' R2 F
11. 12.10 D2 R2 F' D2 F U2 F D2 R2 U2 F L D' B F2 L' B2 R2 B D F'
12. 9.64 U2 D2 R' U' R' B R2 F U2 F U R2 U2 R2 F2 U' F2 L2 U2 R2 D2

Hmm. Sub 10 should be possible...
 
Average of 12: 11.19
1. 9.71 B R2 B' D2 R2 F2 D2 R2 F' D2 L' B' F' R' U B L D R' F'
2. 9.64 F' D2 L2 B D2 F' D2 F R2 F2 D' R' F2 U R F L' U' R B2 U'
3. (14.61) F2 R2 B2 D' R2 U' L2 D F2 U' F U' F' R D' U' F' D2 B2 L
4. 11.58 R U2 B2 F2 L D2 L' U2 R' U2 L2 F U2 B D' R B' F L2 F R2
5. 9.77 L2 B' R2 F2 U2 L2 D2 F' U2 B' F' L' U B2 R' U' F L' D2 R' F'
6. 13.00 F2 L2 F' U2 L2 R2 B' D2 F R2 D' B2 L R' B' F' D' R' F' D2 L'
7. 11.16 D R2 L' U' F U B R L' B' L2 U B2 U2 R2 U' B2 D F2 D2
8. 12.71 D2 B2 R D2 U2 B2 L R2 D2 L' R' F' L2 U' L2 R D' R F2 U2 R'
9. 9.86 L2 U2 L F2 L' B2 D2 F2 U2 R2 U2 B L D R2 B' F' D2 U L D
10. 11.57 D F2 U L2 D B2 U F2 L2 R2 D2 B U' B' D2 F L F2 R D L
11. (9.29) L2 U2 B R2 B' R2 F U2 B2 R2 F' U R' U2 L' D2 U2 F2 R' D2
12. 12.92 D2 B R' U2 B' R2 L' D R L2 D2 B2 L2 D2 F2 L2 B L2 F' R2

Maybe nothing special, but first OH solves on Shengshou Aurora since 2013.
 
Haven't OHed in a while...
stats: (hide)
number of times: 35/35
best time: 13.58
worst time: 19.52

current avg5: 18.35 (σ = 0.37)
best avg5: 15.04 (σ = 0.49)

current avg12: 17.70 (σ = 0.75)
best avg12: 15.93 (σ = 1.02)

session avg: 16.85 (σ = 1.38)
session mean: 16.81
 
That is... not good.

That's weird, for someone of his speed. Perhaps being primarily an OH solver is the cause? In OH compared to TH, being excellent at turning is more important than being excellent at lookahead, since OH turning is more difficult and takes more skill to do well, and lookahead takes less skill to do well since the solves move slower than TH. Cross+1 are really lookahead based and the rest of the solve is much more TPS based. Perhaps this is why? Just a theory.

I think it's just his TPS, he's so fast with out look ahead that it was never really necessary. My TPS is pretty bad so my look ahead has always been good and thus my cross+1.

I don't know how you could think that. The goal isn't to be sub a certain speed; the goal is to be as fast as possible. Good lookahead is necessary for that. He'll be much faster with great turning and great lookahead than with great turning and mediocre lookahead. Maybe lookahead is not necessary for him to be sub 9, but it's still necessary.

That's actually unfortunate--great TPS and bad lookahead would be a better fit for someone who knows a ton of algs. Your physical solving style doesn't fit your mental solving style, haha.

EDIT: I think I'm wrong about that last part, actually. Knowing as many LL algs as you do means that you often use one alg when most people would use two. You spend less moves and time doing TPS-based solving than most people, so I'm totally wrong about that.

I agree, I mean it's not as necessary for him to be at his speed. They are many more cubers who don't see their first pair or have bad look ahead, but Antoine's case is exceptional because of his average.



I wouldn't mind Antoine's TPS that's for sure.

"I think I'm the only sub 9 solver who never looks past cross" -antoine cantin

yeah i guess his lookahead is good enough. he thinks its too hard to track first pair lol.
 
10.48 ZZ method avg12

9.31, (17.96), 12.01, 10.20, (9.15), 10.27, 9.28, 10.98, 11.29, 9.74, 12.10, 9.64 = 10.48

Bolded is a 9.92 avg5

Average of 12: 10.48
1. 9.31 L2 B2 R2 D2 B' D2 B U2 F' L2 F D F R' D R2 B F2 L U' B2
2. (17.96) R2 F L2 B' U2 R2 U2 B F L2 F' U' B R' B F L' U' B U F
3. 12.01 R U' B2 D2 F R U' B U' R F2 R' F2 R B2 U2 R' D2 R F2
4. 10.20 R' L D2 R' U2 F' R' B' D F2 U2 F2 D2 R B2 L' U2 L2 F2
5. (9.15) U' R2 B2 U L2 F2 D2 U' F2 U' F2 R D' R2 F' D' U' B R F2 D'
6. 10.27 L2 B2 U2 F' L2 F' R2 U2 R2 B' L2 D' L U F D2 F L B' R' B'
7. 9.28 D B2 U2 F2 R2 D2 F2 U F2 D' F' L' D' B' F2 U2 B U2 R2 B2
8. 10.98 L2 F2 U2 F2 D' B2 L2 U R2 U F L U' F2 D' F2 D B L' R' F
9. 11.29 D2 R2 D2 L2 F2 D' B2 U' R2 F2 U L' F D2 U' B2 L' U' R2 F2 D2
10. 9.74 F2 D' B2 D' R2 F2 U B2 U' L2 D2 B' D B U' B2 L' R2 F
11. 12.10 D2 R2 F' D2 F U2 F D2 R2 U2 F L D' B F2 L' B2 R2 B D F'
12. 9.64 U2 D2 R' U' R' B R2 F U2 F U R2 U2 R2 F2 U' F2 L2 U2 R2 D2

Hmm. Sub 10 should be possible...

it's happening now, 3 methods sub 10!
 
3884. 5.429 D L2 B2 R2 F2 D' U2 L2 D' F2 U2 F D L D F' R2 B' L2 D2

z2 y'// inspection
L U R U' R// cross
U L U' L'// f2l-1
y R U R'// f2l-2
U y' R U' R' L' U' L// f2l-3
U2 R U' R'// f2l-4
U' F R U R' U' F'// OLL
M2' U M U2 M' U M2'// PLL


very very happy. ;)
 
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