2x2 sim

2.52 (2.851) (1.528) 2.296 2.728 2.368 2.84 2.824 2.2 1.608 2.352 2.488 = 2.422

edit: 2.824 2.2 (1.608) 2.352 2.488 2.464 2.488 (3.6) 2 2.08 2.592 2.12 = 2.361

edit: (1.608) 2.352 2.488 2.464 2.488 (3.6) 2 2.08 2.592 2.12 2.858 1.848 = 2.329
 
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I think the problem for Fridrich is the fact that I have been cubing for 3 years. To get fast at 3x3(I think) is you have to have initiative to get fast when you get started. The initiative is being part of a community which will drive you to to get faster to prove yourself. I didn't introduce myself into a community until I had been cubing for a year a which I had only gotten to barely sub 30 which for another year I didn't even do much in the community which by then I think I had lost my ability to get fast at 3x3. Great example of a young community member getting fast like how I described it was 5BLD.

So maybe I might be able to do this with Columns and perhaps could be the first to get sub 10 average with it.
 
I dunno, I tend to think you can always get faster as long as you have the dexterity to keep in shape. I remember a few years ago saying and believing that I would never be able to get sub-15 (I wasn't even all that far, but I had smooth solves and was turning pretty much as fast as I could). And now I'm actually closing in on the 10-second barrier - and I'm not especially young (>21) or new to cubing (was already at ~35s when I learned Fridrich in late 2006). Sure, I don't think I'll be beating Feliks, but then again I probably didn't ever have the potential to beat him anyway.

If you ever wanna talk about Columns though, you can always hit me up on AIM (PrograMichael). I'm probably the fastest one at it, until some Roux master gives it a shot anyway ;)
 
Did you practice very hard when you started? I see these people who got sub 30 within a few days of starting cubing and I feel as if they could get extremely fast if they kept that momentum going so they could pull another Felik's kind of person yet they never do. I realize this is because you have be at a certain cube knowledge to get to certain point which the amount needed exponentially increases as your times decrease at an exponentially slower rate. Given its not always this way because there is always the sheer speed factor that goes in.

Where I am getting at is there should be more new cubers who are extremely fast.

As for Columns I feel as if there could be some real speed in it. When I have a presolved pair made(which is often) I am able to lookahead to the final pair if I go past the 15 inspection a little. If I knew full C(O)LL know that would help. But the problem I have is when I get edges stuck in between pairs so I have to do an S move, its avoidable but somewhat common if your not careful.
 
All my 5x5 solves today. Not that many but I was out for a few hours :p

number of times: 25/25
best time: 2:53.79
worst time: 3:48.79

current avg5: 3:10.87 (σ = 8.49)
best avg5: 3:10.31 (σ = 4.31)

current avg12: 3:12.81 (σ = 8.66)
best avg12: 3:12.60 (σ = 7.33)

session avg: 3:15.49 (σ = 9.24)
session mean: 3:16.09

3:23.09, 3:04.82, 3:48.79, 3:31.57, 3:06.83, 3:21.15, 2:57.55, 3:28.96, 3:18.63, 3:25.08, 3:20.48, 3:05.78, 3:10.80, 3:14.36, 3:18.11, 3:04.25, 3:19.39, 2:58.87, 3:26.04, 3:14.50, 3:36.79, 3:09.81, 3:02.95, 3:19.84, 2:53.79

All PBs of course. Ended with PB single :D

Only had this for two weeks so not that bad. Almost half of that time was without practice anyway.
 
Pyra PBs :)

Best Average of 100: 7.14
Best Time: 3.16
Worst Time: 10.38
Standard Deviation: 1.2 (17.0%)

1. 6.77 U R' L' U' R U B' U r' l b
2. 5.17 R' U' L' R' U L R' U L B L B U' B L U' R' L B' u' l' b
3. 7.52 L U' R U L' R L' B L' R' B' R' L' U L' B' u' r' l'
4. 7.43 L R L' R' B' R' U' R U B U' R' L' B' l b
5. 4.36 U' R' L' R L' U L' R' L' R' U' R L u' l' b'
6. 4.49 R L U' R' U L' R U' R' U R l' b
7. 6.32 R L U R' L U L R U' B U' B' R' U' L B' l' b'
8. 8.05 U R U L R' U L' R U R' U' R L' B u r' b
9. 7.43 U' L' R' U R' L R' U L' U L R U R' U R' L B u r l
10. 9.25 L R U' R U R L' U L B L B' L R L' u r' b'
11. 6.71 R' L' U L' U' R L' U' R B U B R B R' B r' b
12. 7.99 L U L' U R U' R' U L' U L U R L' u' r' b'
13. 9.40 L' R L' R' L' R U R' U R U R' U R' L' B' u' r l b
14. 6.10 L R U' L U L U' R' L' U' L U L u r b'
15. 6.32 L R' U R L' U L R' L u' r' b'
16. 6.91 L' U' R L' U R' L U B' U B L R L' B' u' r' l b
17. 8.16 L U' R L U R' L R' L' R' U' R L R U' R' B u' r l'
18. 7.01 R' U L U' R' L' R' U' R U R' U R U' R' U R' L B u l'
19. 5.77 L' R U L U' R' U' R U R' U R U' R' U' R' B' u' b
20. 7.64 L' R' U L R U L' U L U' R U R' U L' r'
21. 7.86 B R L' B' L R' B' R' U' R U B U' R L' u' r' l' b'
22. 9.15 L U' R L U L R' U R U' R L R L' R' L' u l b'
23. 6.23 U L R U' L' R' U L' U L U' R U R' U' R' u r l' b'
24. 9.29 L U' R U R' L' R' L' R' U' R L' B' r' l' b
25. 7.87 L U L R U' L R' U L' U L R U' B U' B' R' L' B' u r' b
26. 6.74 R' U' L' R' U L U' R' U' R B u l b
27. 7.40 L R' U' R L' U R B' R B R' B u' b'
28. 5.09 L R' U L U' R' U' R L R' L r l'
29. 8.74 U' R' L' R' L U' R' U R L B r l b'
30. 7.10 L' U' R L' U L' R' U R' L' l b'
31. 7.58 R L U L U' L U' R' L' U' L U' R r' l' b
32. 7.94 L' U R L U' R' U L R' L' R B l b
33. 7.59 B R L' B' L U R' U' B u r' b
34. 6.17 R U R L' U' R L R' L R L B' u' b'
35. 5.43 R L U' R' L' U L R L U L' R' L' R L B' r' l'
36. 7.59 U' R' L' R L' U L' R U R' U R U R' U' R' L B u' r' b'
37. 7.10 U' L R' U' R U' L' U' R U R' U R' L' r l
38. 6.90 L' R' U R' L U' R' U R U' R L R L' U R L B' u l b'
39. 7.16 L R' U L' U' R U L' B' U' B' L' B' L' R' L' B'
40. 6.60 L U R L' U' R' U' L' B' U' B L U L' B u' l'
41. 7.77 L U L R U' L R' U' L' U B' U B L U B u r' l b
42. 8.36 U L' R' U' L R U L R' L' R U L B l' b
43. 8.95 U L' R' U' L R U R U' R' U L' U' L R L B' u' l' b
44. 7.58 R U L' R' L R B U B' U R' U' B' b
45. 6.51 R L U' R' U L' U L' U B' U B L U' R' L' B r' b'
46. 7.44 L U' L' U R U' B U' B' R' L' B' u r l b'
47. 9.10 R' U L' R L U L R L U L' R' L' U' R L B' u' r l b'
48. 9.52 U' R U' L U' R' L' U L B L B' L R' L B u' r l b'
49. 8.00 R L' R L R L' U B' U B L U R u
50. 9.01 U' L' R' U R' L R' U' R B U B' U R B' u r' l'
51. 6.66 L' R' U' L R U L' B' U' B U' L R L B' u r l b
52. 6.93 L U' R L U L R' U' R U' R' U L' U L U' R' L' u r b'
53. 7.37 U R L R' L' U' R' L R L' U R' L B u r'
54. 5.83 L U R L' U' R' U' L' B' U' B L U' L B u r l b
55. 6.51 R U' L U R' L' U' L' U B' U B L U' R' B u r b'
56. 7.50 U' L R U L' R' U' R U R' U R U' R' U R' L' B' u' r' l b
57. 8.25 L U R L U' L R' L' U B' U B L U' R' L B u r' b
58. 5.48 L B' L' B L' R L R' U' R' B' R' B R' U R' L' u' l b
59. 7.26 R L U' R' U L' R U' B U' B' R' L B' u r' b'
60. 6.54 R' U R' U' R' U L' U' L R' L B' r b'
61. 4.95 U L U' L' R' L' U' L U R U L u' r l b
62. 6.42 U L R U' L' R' U' R U B' R B R U' R B' u' r' b
63. 8.67 U L R' U' R L' U' R U' R' L' U' L U' R' L' B u' r l' b
64. 8.07 L U' R L U R' L U' L' U' L U' L B' u r' l b
65. 7.76 L' U' R' U' L R L R L U' L' R' L' R L B' u' r' l b'
66. 7.51 R L R L R L U' L' B' U B' L' B' L' R u' r b
67. 8.13 R U L U' R' L' R B U B' U R' U L' B' u r'
68. 7.31 R' L' R' L R' U L U' R U' R' U L' R B' u' r
69. 4.84 L U' R' U R' L' R' U R U' B U' B' R' U' L' B' u r l b'
70. 6.91 L R U' L U L R B' R' B R' U' R' L B r l'
71. 6.16 L U' R U L r b'
72. 7.00 R' U L' R L U R' B' R' B R B r l b'
73. 7.57 U' R U' L U' R' L' R B U B' U B' r l' b
74. (3.16) L U' R U L' R L R L' U R' B' u l
75. 6.63 L U' R L U R' L U R U R' U' L B b'
76. 6.85 R' U' L' R' U L R' L' B L' B' L' U' R L' B l' b'
77. (10.38) R' U' L' R' U L U' R' L' U' L R L' r b'
78. 6.07 L U' B' L' U' B R' L' R' U' R L R U R' B u b'
79. 9.96 R' U L' U' R L U L R L U' L' R' L' U R' L' B' u r' b
80. 5.26 R' L' U L' U' R L' U L' U' L U' R' L l
81. 9.16 R' U L R U' L' U L' U' L U' L' U L U' R L B' u' r'
82. 5.51 R U L' R' L U R U R' L B'
83. 7.50 L' R U' L U R' U' L' B' U B' L' B' L' U R' L' u' b
84. 6.66 U' L' R' U L R U' L R' L' R' U R B' l' b'
85. 8.34 L U' L R' U L R L B L B' L R' L' r l b
86. 8.63 U L' R' L U' R L B L B U B L R L u' r' l
87. 9.27 R U' L' R' U L U' L' U L U L' U' L U' L u' r' l'
88. 6.18 R' U' R U L' R U' R' U R' L R U R' L' u' r' l b
89. 8.01 R' U L' R L R B U' B' R L u r l
90. 6.57 L U' R' U R' L' R' U' R U' R' L' U' L u' r l b'
91. 8.15 U R L' R U' R L U R U' B U' B' R B u l
92. 6.44 R L' R' L U' L' U L R U L u r'
93. 5.86 L' R' U L R U' R B' R B R' L' B u r l b
94. 5.28 R' U L' R L U' R U R' U L' U L U' R' B u r l
95. 5.41 U' L' R L' U L' R' U' L R L U L' R' L' R L B' u r'
96. 6.47 R U' L' R' U L U L' U' L R r b
97. 6.87 U R L U' R' L' U L' U' L U' L' U L U R L B u r' l b'
98. 6.32 R' U' L' R L' U L' R' L R L' R B b
99. 6.01 R L R L R L U' L' B' U' B L U R' L' B u l' b'
100. 6.54 L R' U L' U' R U' R U' R' L' U' L U' R' L B' r l b'

Average of 100 PB, not bad :p.
I dropped my cube at least 3 times though in this average :(

In the same session:

Best Average of 12: 6.10
Best Time: 4.36
Worst Time: 11.12
Standard Deviation: 1.4 (23.3%)

1. 4.47 L U L' U' R U' R' U' R U' R' L b
2. 4.52 R' L' R L U L R' L' R L u' l' b
3. (11.12) R' U L R U' L' U R' L B' u r' l b'
4. 5.54 R L U' R' U L U' L' B u
5. 8.75 L U' L R' U L R U R U' R' L' U' L U' R' L B r' l'
6. 6.77 U R' L' U' R U B' U r' l b
7. 5.17 R' U' L' R' U L R' U L B L B U' B L U' R' L B' u' l' b
8. 7.52 L U' R U L' R L' B L' R' B' R' L' U L' B' u' r' l'
9. 7.43 L R L' R' B' R' U' R U B U' R' L' B' l b
10. (4.36) U' R' L' R L' U L' R' L' R' U' R L u' l' b'
11. 4.49 R L U' R' U L' R U' R' U R l' b
12. 6.32 R L U R' L U L R U' B U' B' R' U' L B' l' b'

Best Average of 5: 5.70 (Not PB)
 
New 3x3 ao5 PB, got 2 awesome sub 20 solves in a row

Best average of 5: 20.57
23-27 - (23.18) 18.01 (17.59) 21.72 21.97

23. 23.18 L2 D2 R2 U' B2 D R2 U' F2 D2 F U R' L2 F' R U B2 R U
24. 18.01 U' B2 L2 F2 U B2 F2 R2 D2 L2 U2 L' U F L' U' B2 L' D B F D'
25. 17.59 R2 B2 D' R2 D L2 B2 U L2 D' L2 F' R' U2 B U B L F2 L' D2
26. 21.72 L2 U R2 U' L2 F2 U' R2 D2 U' B2 R U L' B' R' B2 F U' B2 R D2
27. 21.97 L2 D L2 U' B2 D2 L2 B2 D2 F' U2 R D U' L D2 R2 F U B' D'

And another one:


Best average of 5: 20.31
63-67 - 20.67 19.86 (18.50) (21.68) 20.40

63. 20.67 D' B2 L2 D' B2 U B2 L2 B2 L2 D2 F' R D B2 D R' B' U' L D2 R
64. 19.86 U F2 R2 L2 U F2 U R2 L2 B2 D2 F U B L F R B
65. 18.50 U F2 U F2 U F2 D' B2 D B2 L' D B' D L' U L2 F' U2 L2
66. 21.68 R2 D2 R2 D' L2 B2 U' L2 D2 L D L2 F D' R F' L2 U' L' D2
67. 20.40 U2 B2 L2 D2 U R2 D R2 B2 U B2 L B2 F D2 R B' D' F2 U R' L'
 
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16.25 3x3 single.
R2 F2 R2 U' B2 D' U' B2 U' F2 L D R L F' D2 R D B' R U
Cross on U, OLL skip into Y perm. Anyone want to try and re-construct?
 
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39. 15.68 F2 D2 R2 U' B2 F2 U' R2 B2 D L2 F U' L2 B U R' F2 D2 L D
New 3x3 PB, maybe I can reconstruct

x2
R' D2 F' y F L' U' L F2 // XCross 8 moves
U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' // F2L 2 11 moves
y2 R U' R' U R U' R' F R' F' R // F2L 3 11 moves
y' U2 F' U' F U' R U R' U2 R U R' U' F R' F' R // F2l 4 17 moves
U' r U R' U R U' R' U R U2 r' // OLL 12 moves
U' y F2 D R' U R' U' R D' F2 L' U L // PLL 13 moves
alg garronOh man I'm so ineffiecient.
72 moves/15.68 = 4.5 tps? that seems too much, I know that the first two F2Ls are right, but I think I had a y perm at the end...
 
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Did you practice very hard when you started?
Not really, no. I think I practiced a lot when I learned Fridrich, but I never really improved quickly. By the time I was at ~35 I had already been cubing for quite a while (maybe a year or two?), just not really speedcubing. So it's not like I suddenly pulled off 30ish averages or anything.

I see these people who got sub 30 within a few days of starting cubing and I feel as if they could get extremely fast if they kept that momentum going so they could pull another Felik's kind of person yet they never do.
Yeah. I think some people start off turning pretty fast and being really proud of that, but then get to a point where you need to slowly develop lookahead and intuition to get faster. I wouldn't be surprised if that part is harder than a lot of younger cubers expect, especially after getting to a decent speed so quickly.

Also, remember that the resources we have now are way better than even a few years ago. Right now you can go to Youtube and quickly get recommendations from top cubers on the best cubes, slow-motion videos of fingertricks, really fast algorithms, detailed advice on every part of a solve, etc. If someone did a lot of research when starting out, maybe we should be surprised if they don't start out really fast...

If I knew full C(O)LL know that would help.
Actually, I think just orienting the corners and then doing PLL at the very end is faster. A lot of people like CLL/EPLL but EPLL really doesn't save much time (there are plenty of really nice PLLs that don't have corners solved). I'd say that the only way CLL would save time on the current Columns method is if you could solve EPLL while finishing up the edge orientation. So then you'd be learning this, or else doing a Roux L6E step. Of course, if you're using CLL and L6E you might as well just use Roux...


Are we talking columns on 3x3? If so, what do you average?
My last serious session: 13.30 avg5 / 14.17 avg12 / 15.46 avg100.
 
U y F2 D R' U R' U' R D' F2 L' U L || PLL 13 moves
Oh man I'm so ineffiecient.
72 moves/15.68 = 4.5 tps? that seems too much, I know that the first two F2Ls are right, but I think I had a y perm at the end...

A Y perm is 17 moves; so with a Y perm, you would have an even higher TPS.
 
Extended the Ao25 to an Ao50 before I went to bed and then forgot to post it :p

3:23.09, 3:04.82, 3:48.79, 3:31.57, 3:06.83, 3:21.15, 2:57.55, 3:28.96, 3:18.63, 3:25.08, 3:20.48, 3:05.78, 3:10.80, 3:14.36, 3:18.11, 3:04.25, 3:19.39, 2:58.87, 3:26.04, 3:14.50, 3:36.79, 3:09.81, 3:02.95, 3:19.84, 2:53.79, 3:15.77, 3:30.41, 3:19.01, 3:28.41, 2:50.15, 3:32.39, 3:04.77, 3:34.14, 3:29.31, 3:25.36, 3:12.81, 3:17.89, 3:08.28, 3:12.44, 3:22.24, 3:19.35, 3:21.35, 2:58.61, 3:21.15, 3:18.50, 3:28.34, 3:07.83, 3:15.15, 3:25.51, 3:07.77

number of times: 50/50
best time: 2:50.15
worst time: 3:48.79

current avg5: 3:16.16 (σ = 8.88)
best avg5: 3:09.51 (σ = 6.42)

current avg12: 3:17.13 (σ = 6.12)
best avg12: 3:12.60 (σ = 7.33)

session avg: 3:17.00 (σ = 9.12)
session mean: 3:16.98

Same Ao12 from the Ao25 stands. Ao5 came to an end on solve 26. =_= PB single of 2:50.15.
 
I just got a 11.67 with Columns. Two of the pair were done if I did an u which made the third a really easy setup and 3 move insertion which solved the final pair. Fixing the centers was just S2 and all the bottom edges were 3 move cycles. I didn't realize I already had one solved so I was going to do my slandered 2-flip edges on the top to finish the edges but I noticed I had a pure flip so I did my blind alg.

The gay thing was it was a hand scramble.
 
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