Hmm, could be viable, but L4C isn't a nice step (and 84 algs isn't the smallest set ever). I wonder what the average move count of LS+EP would be, in that example you're pretty much getting a skip (also a 14 move triple X-Cross Eoline is rather exceptional - so that total move count is a little deceptive). I wouldn't be surprised if COLL/EPLL or OCLL/PLL actually had lower move counts ( and less algs). So at best you're saving part of an F2L insert... which may be quite good.... it would be interesting to see the stats (move counts etc).why has nobody tried eoline + zzf2l-1 + insert last pair and permute edges (like better phasing) + l4c ?
Probably you already know, but you can try doing something similar intuitively like in Heise Method (Step 4). Btw, if you want to use this for speedsolving you'd better ignore my message, 5 edges + 2 corners (or 1 corner in your case) it's a pain for speedsolve (I tried it) and even for FMC it requires a lot of practise. Like one jillion solves or so.why has nobody tried eoline + zzf2l-1 + insert last pair and permute edges (like better phasing) + l4c ?
i don't know how ergonomic l4c is, but optimal 11.73 HTM for LL seems totally boss imo. thats less moves and less algs than zbll (not counting the edge perm part).
take this scramble: B2 L' D2 F2 D2 U' L B' U D' R U2 R U B2 U' R' F2 U' B U B2 D' F' U
x' (Phil's "angle of execution")
M' (U' D) F D' R' F2 U2 L' D2 L U' L' U R' (xxxeoline 14)
U2 R' U' R (last pair and edge permutation 4) <lucky i suppose
F' L' B' U2 B U' B' U2 B2 L' B' L2 F (l4c 13)
d2 (auf 1)
=32 stm or 34 htm
lol whatever. maybe for the hard edge-perm + pair insert cases one could just COLL it out.
That was my point. Although I think there would be somewhat fewer cases in LS+OCLL, there would still be several hundred, and the pay-off would be much, much lower than ZBLL.ZBLL has 493 cases (including PLL)...
Yep.Hmm... I'm not sure if people will save that much time let alone moves after typing out these examples
the rest weren't so bad, the L cases were a bit tricky imo for me, still "kinda" iffy in recognition for those, if only because they were the last ones i learned (haven't learned teh Sune + A-Sunes yet, but i just might because i'm going to learn ZZLLs sooooooon)Kind of off-topic, but I've learned the H and almost all of the Pi COLL cases. Is it really worth it to learn any of the rest?
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