[Help Thread] SS Method Help & Discussion

[Anthony]

I love easy SS cases . Rowan can you reason for that? I'm not arguing I just want to know. In certain cases or most of the time?
PBL algs are very fast btw, .

Well it's 'essentially' a two step method like CLL, except the first step is 'algorithmic' and mostly 2 gen, and very easy, and the second step is pretty much 3 algs to get incredibly fast at rather than 42, with much better recog.

Meh, I guess I don't know enough of SS to see how effective it is as a general idea, but whenever I do solves with it they are always fast, often regardless of how many moves it was.

Yeah, but when you get 0-2 moves faces, EG is :3.

 

[Escher]

Yeah, but when you get 0-2 moves faces, EG1 is :3.

Edited
EG also = CLL

Obviously you're right though

 

[Anthony]

Yeah, but when you get 0-2 moves faces, EG1 is :3.

Edited
EG also = CLL

Obviously you're right though

Actually, I meant all of EG. CLL is :3 too when 0-2 move layer.

 

[Escher]

Yeah, but when you get 0-2 moves faces, EG1 is :3.

Edited
EG also = CLL

Obviously you're right though

Actually, I meant all of EG. CLL is :3 too when 0-2 move layer.

Ahhh and a layer is a subset of face.
Very funny.
I bet you haven't had 5 tequila slammers and 4 pints this evening though :3

 

[Anthony]

Ahhh and a layer is a subset of face.
Very funny.
I bet you haven't had 5 tequila slammers and 4 pints this evening though :3

I got Rowan for once. ;D
And no, America has an absurdly high drinking age.

 

[masterofthebass]

doesn't mean you can't drink.

 

[Anthony]

doesn't mean you can't drink.

Just means I can't drink legally.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Maybe he's a Law Abiding Citizen?

 

[JeffDelucia]

Maybe he's a Law Abiding Citizen?

lolwut?

 

[Escher]

SRS NOW

SS needs an active discussion thread, less off-topic pls :/

Anyway, SS is an amazing method everybody should know. I'm actually teaching somebody to solve 2x2 with a kind of intuitive version and he's getting it quick

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Well the problem with SS is that there are a lot of algs. I was looking at SS before I went and started learning Guidmond.

Is there an "SS Tricks" page? I know Anthony suggests learning these tricks, but which ones specifically, I guess?

 

[JeffDelucia]

Well the problem with SS is that there are a lot of algs. I was looking at SS before I went and started learning Guidmond.

Is there an "SS Tricks" page? I know Anthony suggests learning these tricks, but which ones specifically, I guess?

It seems like the ones with the corner already in but mis oriented would be nice because they can be odd with ortega.

 

[Anthony]

Well the problem with SS is that there are a lot of algs. I was looking at SS before I went and started learning Guidmond.

Is there an "SS Tricks" page? I know Anthony suggests learning these tricks, but which ones specifically, I guess?

It seems like the ones with the corner already in but mis oriented would be nice because they can be odd with ortega.

Yeah, mainly those. After that, you can just start learning random easy cases.

 

[Weston]

Well the problem with SS is that there are a lot of algs. I was looking at SS before I went and started learning Guidmond.

Is there an "SS Tricks" page? I know Anthony suggests learning these tricks, but which ones specifically, I guess?

It seems like the ones with the corner already in but mis oriented would be nice because they can be odd with ortega.

Yeah, mainly those. After that, you can just start learning random easy cases.

Or Guimond for the other cases.

 

[Zarxrax]

I wanted to learn all the cases "with the corner already in but mis-oriented", but because all the pages I could find with SS algs all seem to just completely omit the mirror cases, I worked them all out for myself. If it might be helpful to anyone else, I have published it here: http://amvhell.com/stuff/cubes/SubSS/SubSS.html

This is just a 16-algorithm subset of SS. The same cases are also used in SOAP.

 

[swedishcuber]

Ey. I still don't understand how the diagrams work.

 

[Athefre]

Ey. I still don't understand how the diagrams work.

Have you read these?

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?23922-SS-method&p=449572&viewfull=1#post449572

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?23922-SS-method&p=449605&viewfull=1#post449605

 

[speedcubineveryday]

Aha! I see now. Thank you.

Now, consider the case where the final piece of the first face is in the correct position, but oriented wrong. Are ALL of these cases in the first column of the list? And since the first 7 are just regular OLLs, that means there are only 8 possible cases where that piece's orientation is wrong?
What about the case that is set up by (R U R' U')x4? It would seem similar to the "split" case, but its different. I don't see this case listed anywhere on the page.

That case would be a TCLL case.

 

[shadowslice e]

That case would be a TCLL case.

Well tbf it would've been kinda hard for him to have known about tcll given when this was posted

 

[speedcubineveryday]

I know like 15 SS tricks but I use cll and basic eg

What is basic eg because I am trying to learn intuitive eg?