Random Cubing Discussion

[rubik2005]

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Why is Shengshou so low?

 

[Nmile7300]

Why is Shengshou so low?

D tier is mostly companies that are largely inactive. Also name a shengshou cube thats widely considered the best on the market or even a top contender.

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

D tier is mostly companies that are largely inactive. Also name a shengshou cube thats widely considered the best on the market or even a top contender.

Mr m pyra is apparently good

 

[rubik2005]

D tier is mostly companies that are largely inactive. Also name a shengshou cube thats widely considered the best on the market or even a top contender.

19x19, 17x17,14x14
They're not that bad of a brand. Mr. M series
Its definitely not the best brand, but I see now reason why you put it at the same level as Rubik

 

[BenChristman1]

Why is Shengshou so low?

Shengshou doesn’t really have any main-contenders for WCA puzzles, but most of their non-WCA puzzles are really good.

 

[rubik2005]

Shengshou doesn’t really have any main-contenders for WCA puzzles, but most of their non-WCA puzzles are really good.

Right. @Nmile7300 are you basing the tier on WCA puzzles?

 

[Nmile7300]

Right. @Nmile7300 are you basing the tier on WCA puzzles?

I didn't base this off on non-WCA because many of the companies on the tier list (I didn't make this) don't even make non WCA cubes. I could make a separate list for non-WCA, but I'd have to remove Valk, Gan, Guoguan, etc. and replace them with companies that only make non-WCA.

EDIT: Non WCA tier list

 

[ruffleduck]

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I agree with all of it except Dayan should be in S tier because a) Dayan cubes are AWESOME b) Dayan means "goose" in Chinese which alongside the holy duck is objectively the best animal.

 

[Nmile7300]

I agree with all of it except Dayan should be in S tier because a) Dayan cubes are AWESOME b) Dayan means "goose" in Chinese which alongside the holy duck is objectively the best animal.

Yeah for sure. I just feel like they need a more complete lineup of cubes first. Also geese are amazing

 

[MuaazCubes]

I found this efficient way to do a checkerboard pattern

when I found this out I was like "wow this is so efficient"

 

[Cubing Forever]

controversial tier list since I use bad algs

 

[RoundUpCubing]

been a while since i posted, thought this would be fun

 

[DiamondGolem12]

My tier lists idk

 

[SH03L4C3]

I can never make up my mind when doing tier lists but here it is for now

 

[ruffleduck]

It's making me cringe seeing so many people overrate 4x4

 

[Cubing Forever]

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I agree with all of this but MFJS is S tier because it's products are godly but dirt cheap.
Also, Tier List Thread anyone?

 

[SH03L4C3]

Also, Tier List Thread anyone?

The Tier list thread

This thread is for anyone to put their cubing-related tier list and for people to try tier lists that others have found or made. How to try a tier list: 1. Go to https://tiermaker.com/ 2. Search for your tier list or create one. Popular Tier lists...

www.speedsolving.com

 

[MethodNeutral]

I wasn't sure where else to post this, but I had a proposal/question about cubing terminology.

As many of us know, "Lookahead" refers to the process of determining what the next step of your solve will be while still executing the current step. This is done to reduce pauses.

However, "Lookahead" is almost exclusively used to refer to the intuitive part of solves. I think there should be a similar term, "Lookinto", which refers to this same concept when applied to the algorithmic part of solves. I don't believe this has a term yet, other than "Prediction" which is often used informally when this topic is discussed.

Some examples of Lookinto include:

• [CFOP/ZZ] Predicting AUF after PLL
• [CFOP/ZZ] Predicting PLL (or just CP case) after OLL
• [CFOP] Using non-standard algs for 2-look OLL in order to predict the second look (link to Jperm's video on the topic)
• [Roux] Predicting EO before executing CMLL and/or using a different CMLL alg for a better EO case
• [Roux] EOLR (this borders on lookahead since this is an intuitive step, so its inclusion is debatable)

While these are the more-or-less standard applications of Lookinto, there is more potential for the concept. For example, we can choose to use COLL algs which preserve a 1x2x2 block in LL in order to Lookinto EPLL. This can lead to 1LLL for many cases when edges are oriented (does not apply to H/Pi cases).

I'm interested to hear your thoughts! Does this already have a name, or do you think we shouldn't introduce this new term? What other applications of Lookinto can you think of?

 

[Porcupine01]

just realized that, you can make someone say something really stupid

 

[Porcupine01]

pineapple pizza is worse than normal pizza

see?