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Sub1Hour

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Oh yeah, and lets just get to the point. GAN is a good brand, but it doesn't have the godly status that every beginner thinks it does
Don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it

Okay, I'm gonna say it.

Gan cubes are fine, but the company itself is an absolute embarrassment to the community. Ever since 2018 with the release of the Gan 356 X, there has been nothing but recycled mechanisms. The Gan 354 was their last original puzzle. The Gan 356 X has the exact same mechanism excluding customization options and size. As of September 11th of 2018, there has been a total of 3 unique 3x3 piece designs, being the 354/X, XS, and the 11 Pro. Would you like to guess how many 3x3 puzzles Gan has produced (excluding smart cubes and the monster go series) since then? 16. Imagine taking 3 puzzle designs and milking them for 16 puzzles. It's absolutely atrocious. That's not even taking into account that Gan is marketing these puzzles as being completely unique. More than 75% of their releases are the same exact puzzle with different magnets, GES, or plastic coatings. Gan straight up ignores the fact that cubes like the M and X are the exact same puzzles in almost all of their marketing. The way they handle their marketing is anti-consumer at best. Now, the way that Moyu handled the original WRm is much more honest and straightforward. It wasn't perfect, they still marketed the cube as being completely distinct from the GTS3 at first, but at least it was something that people asked for. I remember when the GTS3 first came out and many people were turned off by the strong magnets and ridges. Then Moyu listened to us and gave us a ridgeless puzzle with weak magnets. Never have I met a single person who looked at the Gan X and said, "Oh, I wish this cube had a slightly different GES system with fewer settings and a lack of magnet customization!"

Gan puzzles aren't awful, but their company practices for the last few years have been sad, especially since they were so much more innovative back in the day.

The moral of the story is to just buy a valk 3

I'll go ahead and make that a spoiler since everyone else on this website is probably sick of me talking about this but I'll go ahead and talk about it again.

I find that the zz method is more for the novelty than for practical speedsolving
Including subsets like ZZCT, ZZ could possibly be the method of the future, and it's far from being a novelty considering its movecount and high TPS ceiling.
 

SH03L4C3

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Don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it

Okay, I'm gonna say it.

Gan cubes are fine, but the company itself is an absolute embarrassment to the community. Ever since 2018 with the release of the Gan 356 X, there has been nothing but recycled mechanisms. The Gan 354 was their last original puzzle. The Gan 356 X has the exact same mechanism excluding customization options and size. As of September 11th of 2018, there has been a total of 3 unique 3x3 piece designs, being the 354/X, XS, and the 11 Pro. Would you like to guess how many 3x3 puzzles Gan has produced (excluding smart cubes and the monster go series) since then? 16. Imagine taking 3 puzzle designs and milking them for 16 puzzles. It's absolutely atrocious. That's not even taking into account that Gan is marketing these puzzles as being completely unique. More than 75% of their releases are the same exact puzzle with different magnets, GES, or plastic coatings. Gan straight up ignores the fact that cubes like the M and X are the exact same puzzles in almost all of their marketing. The way they handle their marketing is anti-consumer at best. Now, the way that Moyu handled the original WRm is much more honest and straightforward. It wasn't perfect, they still marketed the cube as being completely distinct from the GTS3 at first, but at least it was something that people asked for. I remember when the GTS3 first came out and many people were turned off by the strong magnets and ridges. Then Moyu listened to us and gave us a ridgeless puzzle with weak magnets. Never have I met a single person who looked at the Gan X and said, "Oh, I wish this cube had a slightly different GES system with fewer settings and a lack of magnet customization!"

Gan puzzles aren't awful, but their company practices for the last few years have been sad, especially since they were so much more innovative back in the day.

The moral of the story is to just buy a valk 3

I'll go ahead and make that a spoiler since everyone else on this website is probably sick of me talking about this but I'll go ahead and talk about it again.


Including subsets like ZZCT, ZZ could possibly be the method of the future, and it's far from being a novelty considering its movecount and high TPS ceiling.
I dont care how long it is, its going in my signature
 

rubik2005

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When can stores add a product that hasn't been released and start taking pre-orders for them? TC and SCS have done videos on products that weren't on their site immediately (like the Weilong AI), so do they need to wait until the orders begin to ship on their way to them?
 

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I should know this, but how would I go about framecounting a TPS spam?
I can do it for you, if you like. If you would prefer to do it yourself, all you have to do is count the number of frames your execution takes then divide it by the FPS to get the time, then divide the number of turns by the time.
 

Waffles

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all you have to do is count the number of frames your execution takes then divide it by the FPS to get the time, then divide the number of turns by the time.

I was going to ask this. Thanks anyway...

Also how can you tell what FPS your camera records in? I’m too lazy to look it up myself.
 

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I was going to ask this. Thanks anyway...

Also how can you tell what FPS your camera records in? I’m too lazy to look it up myself.
What i do is i just go frame by frame until the second counter increases. the number of frames it took is the FPS. (most cameras are 30FPS, high quality cameras are often 60FPS, if that helps)
 

xyzzy

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Also how can you tell what FPS your camera records in?
(i) Your camera should have a frame rate option somewhere. Delve into the settings menu if there is one.
(ii) On your computer, use MediaInfo. (Warning: this will not be accurate when VFR is involved.)
(iii) In whatever video editing software you use, you should be able to see the timecodes of the individual frames. This is especially relevant if you have weird cameras that record in variable frame rate (VFR) while still accurately recording timestamps. In this case, don't actually count frames, but just subtract the start and end times.
 

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When can stores add a product that hasn't been released and start taking pre-orders for them? TC and SCS have done videos on products that weren't on their site immediately (like the Weilong AI), so do they need to wait until the orders begin to ship on their way to them?
I think it’s when the final product packaging and accessories get finalized, the reviews copies of a puzzle are usually just the cube by itself or with any required tools to use adjustment systems
 
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