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One-Answer WCA Competition and Regulations Question Thread

thomas.sch

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I think the reason for the logo ban was not to impede the identification of different cubes. The reason was (special for M2 solvers) that you can identify if the white side is up or down => so you know the whole edge part if you are on even or odd and also if you don't remember if you have parity or not you can feel it.

And the reason to ban printed logos (eg. GAN) was, that it is often possible to feel the logo, also if it is not a sticker.

The link to the memo is in fact one reason why I consider to use different cubes! I had at home while practicing the case the I nudged the cubes and it was no problem to find out which cube was already solved because I do the 4 cubes every time in the same order.

But the main reason is that I will not spend about 100$ for 5 good magnetic cubes because I already have 6 good cubes that I can use for Multi BLD.
 
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Why is it that when there are 2 WRs for the same event happening at a competition, only the faster one is the one counted as a WR? (Only applicable if the slower one of the 2 happened fiirst)
 

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Why is it that when there are 2 WRs for the same event happening at a competition, only the faster one is the one counted as a WR? (Only applicable if the slower one of the 2 happened fiirst)
It's so time the solve is completed is not a factor. The problem isn't two solves at the same competition, it's two solves at different competitions. So the WCA just takes fastest solve at the end of the day instead of trying to sort out times.
 

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It seems strange that you couldn't have a little sticker or even a printed on logo that isn't going to help you at all but you could have completely different cubes. I could use an MS, a YLM m, and a Qiyi QiMeng Plus for MBLD. These cubes are very different and I could more easily link the memo to the solve than if I had a printed logo.
Another thing to consider is cost.

Most of us who aren't serious multiblders don't have multiple of the exact some cube model lying around. You can't reasonably expect people competing in multiBLD, especially first-timers, to just go out and buy X of the same cube instead of using the cubes they already have (likely a variety of different cubes). If the WCA instituted a new rule requiring all cubes used in a multiBLD attempt to be identical, almost no one would compete in it anymore.

Banning logos is a complete nothingburger in comparison. Logo stickers can easily be removed. Printed logos can usually be scrubbed off. All it costs is a bit of time; it's not like you have to buy X new cubes that come logo-free.

It's also worth considering whether being able to differentiate between the cubes really counts as an (unfair) advantage. If you had identical cubes, you could (in theory) sort them by your memo's alphabetical order, or group them based on which ones have parity, etc. etc., which actually slightly reduces the amount you have to memorise. (This would be silly in a real attempt because this sorting wastes a lot of time to save only a few bits of information.) In contrast, if you're associating each cube's memo with the cube hardware itself, that's strictly more information to memorise. There are other things rookie BLD solvers do that are closer to "cheating" (imo) than being able to differentiate the cubes by touch, which are nevertheless still allowed, e.g. (in 3BLD) crossing your legs depending on whether the scramble has parity.
 
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Another thing to consider is cost.

Most of us who aren't serious multiblders don't have multiple of the exact some cube model lying around. You can't reasonably expect people competing in multiBLD, especially first-timers, to just go out and buy X of the same cube instead of using the cubes they already have (likely a variety of different cubes). If the WCA instituted a new rule requiring all cubes used in a multiBLD attempt to be identical, almost no one would compete in it anymore.

Banning logos is a complete nothingburger in comparison. Logo stickers can easily be removed. Printed logos can usually be scrubbed off. All it costs is a bit of time; it's not like you have to buy X new cubes that come logo-free.
Yes, I think it's easy to see that it would be very impractical to go out and spend more money than you need on cubes that are identical when you can simply use what you have. It would simply be to expensive for most people to get into MBLD seriously. I don't at all expect people to feel obligated to do this I just find it silly that one could think a printed logo could help with memo some. Some (like me) like the looks of a logo and wouldn't want to have to remove it. Sure it's not a significant sacrifice but it is still an inconvenience.

It's also worth considering whether being able to differentiate between the cubes really counts as an (unfair) advantage. If you had identical cubes, you could (in theory) sort them by your memo's alphabetical order, or group them based on which ones have parity, etc. etc., which actually slightly reduces the amount you have to memorise. (This would be silly in a real attempt because this sorting wastes a lot of time to save only a few bits of information.) In contrast, if you're associating each cube's memo with the cube hardware itself, that's strictly more information to memorise. There are other things rookie BLD solvers do that are closer to "cheating" (imo) than being able to differentiate the cubes by touch, which are nevertheless still allowed, e.g. (in 3BLD) crossing your legs depending on whether the scramble has parity.

While that is true I was implying that significantly different cubes can make linking each cube to memo a lot easier. Of course, me not being a BLD solver maybe I'm just being stupid and the feel of a cube doesn't help.
 

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There are other things rookie BLD solvers do that are closer to "cheating" (imo) than being able to differentiate the cubes by touch, which are nevertheless still allowed, e.g. (in 3BLD) crossing your legs depending on whether the scramble has parity.
This is actually something I learned from (ironically) a relatively good blind solver @Keroma12, about putting your feet together when you have parity in big bld.


The regulation in question is
  • B3b) The competitor must not make physical notes. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF).

I've thought about what other things might be allowed: rolling up a sleeve, turning in your seat, taking off a shoe, parting hair one direction or draping locks of hair over one shoulder, slapping yourself on an arm to give a sting, biting off part of a fingernail, or opening jacket pockets?

I'm assuming that the regulation is written broadly enough to allow full delegate discretion given that there are quite a number of situations where you can exploit your environment without making "physical" notes.
 

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ive found i grip better on cubes with vinyl gloves and i wanna know if theyre legal in the wca
According to my understanding of the WCA regulations, I believe that gloves would be legal in a WCA competition-- if you really want to be safe, before you got to a comp next, you can email the delegate to double check.

  • 2i1) Competitors may use non-electronic aidsthat do not give an unfair advantage, at the discretion of the WCA Delegate. This includes:
    • 2i1a) Medical/physical aids worn by the competitor (e.g. glasses, wrist brace). As an exception to Regulation 2i, medical aids may be electronic if the competitor does not have comfortable non-electronic alternatives (e.g. if the competitor has a personal hearing aid or pacemaker).
    • 2i1b) Earplugs and earmuffs (but not electronic headphones and earbuds).
    • 2i1c) Hand warmers.
    • 2i1d) Food and drink.
 

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If you want any details, this is a piece from the YJ MGC 5x5. I'm wondering if this would be comp legal, and if it wouldn't, what are some potential fixes?
 

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Why wouldn't it? Is there a big dent we can't see? If it's purely a stickerless cube, it should be perfectly fine.
Look at the orange side of the piece. If you don't see it, click on the image to make it bigger and higher-res. I don't know why this forum makes attatched images low-res when they're not scaled up
 

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For some reason 5x5s are fragile.
(oh this is the same mgc 5x5 as before)
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Here's the previous part in case you haven't seen it: https://www.speedsolving.com/thread...ns-question-thread.50221/page-74#post-1458626
 

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During a BLD event is it legal in competitions to transcribe or write down your memo scheme? I understand it's not optimal but could you theoretically bring a pen and paper to the table, write down the memo scheme, then out your blindfold on and solve? Thanks,
 

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During a BLD event is it legal in competitions to transcribe or write down your memo scheme? I understand it's not optimal but could you theoretically bring a pen and paper to the table, write down the memo scheme, then out your blindfold on and solve? Thanks,
B3) Memorization phase:
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B3b) The competitor must not make physical notes. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF).
 

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@Mike Hughey Thank you. I should really spend some time and read the rules. Appreciate the prompt response!

Note, there is currently no way (?) to stop competitors from making positional notes: a very common one is to put your feet together if you have parity!


E: I knew this felt familiar; I said the same thing two months ago, just a few messages further up the page
putting your feet together when you have parity in big bld.
 
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Do you have to register your legal gender on your wca account thingy? I’m trans and i cant change my legal gender yet but i’d hate to be required to have female on my public wca account, that would really not be good for my mental health
 
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