# Odd WCA stats/ Stats request Thread

#### Hippolyte!!!

##### Member
Thank you!
Indeed, I'm pretty well ranked. But even if it's fun to be in statistics, I would prefer to not have this one.^^

#### Stefan

##### Member
Darn, speedcubing is getting worse again:

Average of everybody's best average at the competition:
Code:
WC2003  21.45
WC2005  19.59
WC2007  27.62
WC2009  25.61
WC2011  22.45
WC2013  24.02

SELECT competitionId, sum(bestAverage)/count(*)/100 FROM
(SELECT competitionId, min(average) bestAverage FROM Results
WHERE competitionId like 'WC20%' and eventId='333' and average>0
GROUP BY competitionId, personId) tmp
GROUP BY competitionId
ORDER BY competitionId

#### cubizh

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Darn, speedcubing is getting worse again:
I'm not sure that claim can be made with this ammount of data, for a specific competition. You should probably widen that average of averages calculation to the entire number of competitions that take place every year (like "Average of averages recorded in 20??" ). But still on the (WC* - WC1982), you should post the standard deviation for these results also.

#### AvGalen

Darn, speedcubing is getting worse again:

Average of everybody's best average at the competition:
Code:
WC2003  21.45
WC2005  19.59
WC2007  27.62
WC2009  25.61
WC2011  22.45
WC2013  24.02

SELECT competitionId, sum(bestAverage)/count(*)/100 FROM
(SELECT competitionId, min(average) bestAverage FROM Results
WHERE competitionId like 'WC20%' and eventId='333' and average>0
GROUP BY competitionId, personId) tmp
GROUP BY competitionId
ORDER BY competitionId
I wonder where you got that idea

#### TMOY

##### Member
Also don't forgert that there were twice more competitors at WC 2013 than at the previous WCs, and since the fast guys will always be there, more competitors means slower competitors on average.

(And WC 2003 and 2005 results are meaningless because only the fastest people got an average (first two rounds in 2003 and first round in 2005 were best of 3).

#### rj

##### Member
Also don't forgert that there were twice more competitors at WC 2013 than at the previous WCs, and since the fast guys will always be there, more competitors means slower competitors on average.

(And WC 2003 and 2005 results are meaningless because only the fastest people got an average (first two rounds in 2003 and first round in 2005 were best of 3).

Wait, WC 2013 was the biggest?

#### cubizh

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Wait, WC 2013 was the biggest?
Yes, with 580 competitors. WC 2009 was second with 327, followed by WC 2011 with 292.

#### Stefan

##### Member
I'm not sure that claim can be made with this ammount of data, for a specific competition. You should probably widen that average of averages calculation to the entire number of competitions that take place every year (like "Average of averages recorded in 20??" ). But still on the (WC* - WC1982), you should post the standard deviation for these results also.
Also don't forgert that there were twice more competitors at WC 2013 than at the previous WCs, and since the fast guys will always be there, more competitors means slower competitors on average.
(And WC 2003 and 2005 results are meaningless because only the fastest people got an average (first two rounds in 2003 and first round in 2005 were best of 3).
No, no, no, my analysis and report are perfectly fine and clearly demonstrate the lack of competitiveness among today's cubers.

I wonder where you got that idea
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

#### cubizh

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
You should probably widen that average of averages calculation to the entire number of competitions that take place every year (like "Average of averages recorded in 20??" ).
s/You/I

Actually Stefan is correct up until now

#### Cubo largo

##### Member
Hi!
It's possible to create a stat that show a mean of the singles progressions of all the 4BLDer in the official WCA table? I'l read "in 1 year, in average the PB are broken by x minutes" or something like this. It's difficult to say in english for me. Like the "misc" zone in the WCAs site but with a mean of all the 3BLD/4BLD and 5BLD personal records, not only the WR. It's possible?

#### MatejMuzatko

##### Member
Has there ever been some non-weekend competition?

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#### MatejMuzatko

##### Member
Thank you cubizh, I may ask for some thing that has been replied yet, but I wonder... Is there any graph of growth of cubing population? Thanks ;-)

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#### Sebastien

All competitions with less than 10 competitors:

1. ChinaFM2011Shenyang 3
1. ChinaFM2011Zhengzhou 3
3. ChinaFM2011Guangzhou 6
4. DutchOpen2003 7
5. ValgaOpen2013 8
6. WaikatoAutumnOpen2010 9
6. AvalonOpen2013 9
6. JordanOpen2012 9
6. ChalmersOpen2005 9
6. BogorOpen2013 9
6. PuyDeDomeOpen2010 9

#### cubizh

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
 CompetitionID Country Competitors Year ValgaOpen2013 Estonia/Latvia(?) 8 2013 BogorOpen2013 Indonesia 9 2013 AvalonOpen2013 France 9 2013 BergshamraBlind2013 Sweden 10 2013 HaNoiBigCube2013 Vietnam 12 2013 CupcakeCubing2013 Australia 13 2013 MILOpen2013 France 15 2013 Bandungan2013 Indonesia 15 2013 Valparaiso2013 Chile 16 2013 ApogeeOpen2013 India 16 2013 TriesteOpen2013 Italy 16 2013