NEW Guide to Choosing a Speedcubing Method (Speedcubing.org)

[PetraPine]

Sometimes, things on paper are not quite true in reality.

Somewhat--
I Think that ZZ is better for OH,
On paper its better for 2H aswell,
But because of high level Lookahead that probably isnt true
tymon looks to atleast two pairs almost every solve lol

 

[Sub1Hour]

Like the Cleveland Browns last year.

@Sub1Hour is the only person on the forums that I know of who follows the NFL, so he'll find it funny.

You mean the cowboys every year?

Oh MaN wE GoNnA PoP OfF ThIs YeAr, BeSt OfFeNcE iN ThE nFl, DaK iS gOaTeD

*proceeds to go 8-8 and miss the playoffs despite being in the worst divisionin football by a mile*

yAlL sLeEpIn On ThE cOwBoYs, ThIs YeAr wE
*insert minor change in the roster/staff*! SuPeR bOwL hErE We CoMe!

*goes 8-8 again*

NeXt YeAr MaN!

*goes 8-7-1*

LETS GO COWBOYS BEST FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME

*loses in the wildcard*

I mean at this point it’s almost like Groundhog Day but for an NFL season

 

[PetraPine]

I feel bad for my family they think the cowboys are so amazing...

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

I think ZZ is better than we give it credit for. If you can do ZZ-a with an EO-Cross in inspection then I think that could be the best feasible method for 2H, other than full ZB. For OH, it could be better due to less moves and no rotations. If you want to do OH but you just can't do M moves for roux, either git gud or do ZZ

I feel bad for my family they think the cowboys are so amazing...

Lol try living in the UK and supporting Arsenal.

 

[Username: Username:]

idk, in 2H ZZ is pretty nice but in OH, I feel like CFOP is always one pair ahead than ZZ cause you don't need to do EO. (well you could solve this problem by doing EOCross really fast, in 2H ZZ that's pretty much possible)

 

[PetraPine]

¨on paper¨
as we were saying,
on paper ZZ plus ZBLL is one of the best methods but thats again
on paper,
in practice this doesnt seem to be true,
i personally think because to get top level with ZZ because of EO you need eminse TPS during Cross,F2L,and LL which i dont see being possible for most people.
with this flaw, and the fact that people probably couldnt do cross+1 or 2 most solves make ZZ not As good as it looks.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

idk, in 2H ZZ is pretty nice but in OH, I feel like CFOP is always one pair ahead than ZZ cause you don't need to do EO. (well you could solve this problem by doing EOCross really fast, in 2H ZZ that's pretty much possible)

With ZZ i feel like it's worse cross for better F2L and better LL.

 

[Username: Username:]

¨on paper¨
as we were saying,
on paper ZZ plus ZBLL is one of the best methods but thats again
on paper,
in practice this doesnt seem to be true,
i personally think because to get top level with ZZ because of EO you need eminse TPS during Cross,F2L,and LL which i dont see being possible for most people.
with this flaw, and the fact that people probably couldnt do cross+1 or 2 most solves make ZZ not As good as it looks.

ZZ is a method where it's best when you have gotten good.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

¨on paper¨
as we were saying,
on paper ZZ plus ZBLL is one of the best methods but thats again
on paper,
in practice this doesnt seem to be true,
i personally think because to get top level with ZZ because of EO you need eminse TPS during Cross,F2L,and LL which i dont see being possible for most people.
with this flaw, and the fact that people probably couldnt do cross+1 or 2 most solves make ZZ not As good as it looks.

It's possible to do XEO-Cross, but that would require the peak human being.

 

[PetraPine]

Also TBH i think all of the big 4 are trash for OH,
and we need to create and use More OH
Specific methods like LEOR,
that dont have as huge flaws for OH..

 

[Username: Username:]

It's possible to do XEO-Cross, but that would require the peak human being.

Kek Radmac's already planning EOCross + 1 and more.

 

[PetraPine]

It's possible to do XEO-Cross, but that would require the peak human being.

I This is one of the things i couldnt stand about ZZ when i tried it,
it requires so much effort.
plus i said MOST people

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Kek Radmac's already planning EOCross + 1 and more.

He's the peak human being then.

 

[Username: Username:]

Also TBH i think all of the big 4 are trash for OH,
and we need to create and use More OH
Specific methods like LEOR,
that dont have as huge flaws for OH..

Bro what the heckin heck Roux is better than most OH specific methods and it's part of the big four.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Also TBH i think all of the big 4 are trash for OH,
and we need to create and use More OH
Specific methods like LEOR,
that dont have as huge flaws for OH..

Yea like YruRU

 

[PetraPine]

Ya but Roux still has a huge flaw in fingertricks,
thats why i think LEOR or 42 could be the next big methods,
42 bieng very efficient
and LEOR(and YruRU) having Less M moves

 

[Username: Username:]

Ya but Roux still has a huge flaw in fingertricks,
thats why i think LEOR or 42 could be the next big methods,
42 bieng very efficient
and LEOR(and YruRU) having Less M moves

Hahahahahahahaha Roux fingertricks are not that bad, if it is, git gud lol.

 

[PetraPine]

Hahahahahahahaha Roux fingertricks are not that bad, if it is, git gud lol.

????
Comparitively like they really are for OH,
so i think we need to try to push methods farther seperately,
i know roux fingertricks arent bad for 2H.
also i know how to do the m move thing, but adjusting youre hand mid solve plus second block wide moves and m moves is pretty bad

I think out of most of the CURRENT methods Roux is up there for OH but thats CURRENT methods,
OH needs to develop more.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

????
Comparitively like they really are for OH,
so i think we need to try to push methods farther seperately,
i know roux fingertricks arent bad for 2H.
also i know how to do the m move thing, but adjusting youre hand mid solve plus second block wide moves and m moves is pretty bad

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

what does that have to do with anything?
i used to be sub 15 with roux...

Actually watch at the time it starts