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I wouldn't call that forced if you weren't purposefully doing something to influence it.

but i was doing edge control, and if i had RU'R' inserted it, it still would've been a PLL skip, sooo not sure what to call it...
It's a LL skip, with edge control.

ok so, thats actually like twice as likely, correct?
 
yay

Generated By csTimer on 2015-10-28
avg of 12: 8.91

Time List:
1. 8.71 U2 R U2 B2 L2 F2 U2 R' B2 U2 R D' R2 F U2 B2 R' D B F2 D'
2. 8.56 R2 D2 F2 L R2 B2 F2 D2 L' U2 R' U L B' L2 D' U2 F U2 B2
3. (7.56) R B2 U2 B2 U2 L2 D B2 F2 D F2 R2 B D' F2 U2 B R' U2 L U
4. 10.48 B R2 D2 F R2 F' D2 F U2 R2 F2 L' D2 U B U' R U F D B'
5. 8.79 B' U L2 D' R2 U' B2 U B2 F2 U' L B' R' B2 R2 B2 F2 L D
6. 8.76 F B2 L U R2 U2 D' L D L2 B2 D' R2 L2 D L2 U' B'
7. (11.05) U2 B' F2 R2 F' U2 F2 U2 R2 L' B' F2 L B' D' L' R D' B'
8. 8.35 F2 U' F2 L2 D' L2 B2 U2 F2 R2 U' B' L D L2 F R U' L U2 F
9. 8.31 L F R2 B' R' D R2 F L R2 U2 L2 F2 U R2 D' F2 L2 B
10. 9.02 D' F2 D2 R2 F2 U L2 D' F2 R2 U2 L B R2 D F' L R' B2 F2 R2
11. 9.22 F2 L2 B2 U2 L2 D' R2 D R2 F2 U' B' D R2 F2 R U' R' U
12. 8.94 F R2 U' L2 B2 R2 B2 R2 D2 U F2 D2 B' L2 U' F' R U B' U'

first sub 9
 
No, because I think it's too late for switching... I am sub10 with cfop, so it would be a long way to get down to my cfop times. I would be happy being sub15 with roux :D

It's never too late to switch ;) If you don't want to then that's fine, but with Roux there always seems to be somewhere I know I can improve, so I think my Roux times should be able to overtake my CFOP times. It only took a few months to get sub-15 and my CFOP is slower. That might not be the same with you though, so keep using CFOP!
 
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