[Help Thread] 2x2 Discussion

[mns112]

How to get sub 4/3 on 2x2

General stuff u need for sub 4/3

Im sub 4 easy and I get quite a few sub 3 avgs.
For sub 3/4 I use CLL with a bit of one looking. 2x2 being a small cube requires fast recognition and good TPS. If you have that all down, Sub 3 is yours.

 

[asacuber]

How to get sub 4/3 on 2x2

General stuff u need for sub 4/3

I avg 3.4ish w/ cll
Tbh you can be sub 4 with ortega/VO and LBL. See Chris Olsons videos, they are good

 

[LastSicarius]

How to get sub 4/3 on 2x2

General stuff u need for sub 4/3

I'm sub 5 with Ortega and consider to change this method to CLL. It's the best idea now or is there any better method then CLL?

 

[Rcuber123]

I'm sub 5 with Ortega and consider to change this method to CLL. It's the best idea now or is there any better method then CLL?

I waited till I was sub 3 with ortega. Worst decision ever

 

[genericcuber666]

I waited till I was sub 3 with ortega. Worst decision ever

ummm your sig disagrees with that...

 

[WACWCA]

I'm sub 5 with Ortega and consider to change this method to CLL. It's the best idea now or is there any better method then CLL?

CLL is definitely the next step up from Ortega, which is a subset of EG. The "best method" for 2x2 is basically EG and other subsets with one looking. But that's just more algs, not really a whole new method

 

[Rcuber123]

ummm your sig disagrees with that...

My sig is stupid. Deal with it.
Actually it's bcoz at a comp I went to before I started learning CLL (I'm almost done now) I was practicing with a few ppl and one of them new full CLL and one was learning so I always told them Ortega>CLL of course knowing that the opposite was true. Guess who won.

 

[Betmaster81]

I have some questions about 2x2x2:

1) Where I can find 1LLL? It should be only 28 cases
2) Where I can find few moves syrategy or database algortihms? (In the Wiki section I have not found this material)

Thanks

 

[shadowslice e]

1LLL=CLL try algdb.net
just look up methods like CLL, TCLL, EG, varasano and vop

 

[Cale S]

1LLL is called CLL and is 42 cases including PLL

algdb.net

 

[Betmaster81]

Thanks but I hope for an indication about Few Moves strategy for 2x2x2 also. I suspect that to cmplete the first layer and finish with CLL is not the most efficient way...

 

[shadowslice e]

Thanks but I hope for an indication about Few Moves strategy for 2x2x2 also. I suspect that to cmplete the first layer and finish with CLL is not the most efficient way...

The most efficient solutions are not always the fastest because or ergonomics. In addition, many of the methods are really near optimal for many positions. EG is probably the most consistently efficient though it also has many algs.

 

[CornerCutter]

Hi,

I average about 7sec with LBL/Ortega and I want to start learning CLL.

What is the best recourse too learn all the CLL algs?

 

[Chree]

Hi,

I average about 7sec with LBL/Ortega and I want to start learning CLL.

What is the best recourse too learn all the CLL algs?

http://www.cyotheking.com/cll2-2/
http://algdb.net/ (CLL sets are towards the bottom of the front page)

 

[CornerCutter]

Thanks, now I need to start memorizing.

 

[pratik khanna]

how to recognise eg 1 cases

 

[Ksh13]

how to recognise eg 1 cases

The same way you recognise CLL

 

[Acuber123456]

Hi there!
I am not a very good 2x2er who averages about 9 seconds. I was wondering does anyone know of a good website for cll algs?

 

[PurpleBanana]

Hi there!
I am not a very good 2x2er who averages about 9 seconds. I was wondering does anyone know of a good website for cll algs?

algdb, cyotheking

 

[mafergut]

Hi there!
I am not a very good 2x2er who averages about 9 seconds. I was wondering does anyone know of a good website for cll algs?

If you're at 9 seconds average I'm not sure learning CLL is the best you can do. I know that the usual advice is, the sooner you learn the more advanced method the better but you should be able to get sub-5 at least with Ortega / Varasano and with CLL, unless you are able to one-look your solves you're not going to get much faster than that (unless you go all the way to full EG). Just sayin'