[Help Thread] OLL and PLL Discussion

[Cubenovice]

I suggest you learn full OLL first before attempting to force OLL skips

And keep practicing cross and F2L; that's where the large gain in time is

 

[ben1996123]

practise
learn full oll maybe
winter variation
one answer question thread
this

 

[McBeef]

OLL/PLL Help!

Hello,I have been using badmephistos oll pll algoritms for a while and just realized there are more fast and efficient algs.

can anyone help me find these faster formulas?

Thank you for you time, fellow cubers.

 

[aceofspades98]

Go through the ones on the speedsolving wiki and choose which ones you like best.

 

[McBeef]

Thanks man ill make sure to check that out then.

 

[Renslay]

Hello,I have been using badmephistos oll pll algoritms for a while and just realized there are more fast and efficient algs.

can anyone help me find these faster formulas?

Thank you for you time, fellow cubers.

Also look after videos on youtube; there are a ton of videos about fast algorithms (e.g., "sub 1.2 all PLLs" etc, they often shair their algorithms too), which can help you to choose yours.

 

[crazycubes]

How to learn oll

There are 57 oll algs. Is it necessary/ possible to learn them in a month at the max? is there some other alternative method? I have also noticed that there are only 8-9 algs for all edgess oriented. How do i get the edges auto oriented?:confused:

 

[Username]

I did not learn how to learn oll from this. Bad tutorial (referring to title)

 

[CubezUBR]

it will only save 1-4 seconds depending on how fast you are anyway, and you allready know about 10 from 2 look oll, it can be dont but i dont see the point. instead learn VHF2L or something like that or winter variation because it is faster than 2 look oll but not as fast as 1 look oll but has barely any algorithms compared to full OLL. and 57 algs in 31 days is a big task, so to be honest i dont see the point. (btw i use VHF2L when i can and only know 25+ oll's)

 

[kcl]

Really if you efficiently use partial edge control full OLL saves barely a second. If that..

 

[TheNextFeliks]

How can I improve my last layer times? They are about 7-8 seconds. I avg barely sub-20. I think it is about 3.5-4. I use 3lll btw.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

How can I improve my last layer times? They are about 7-8 seconds. I avg barely sub-20. I think it is about 3.5-4. I use 3lll btw.

drill your algs. Do PLL time attacks and maybe learn partial edge control to get easier OLL cases.
You could try learning more OLL cases but for now, try to work on recognition and execution.

 

[TheNextFeliks]

drill your algs. Do PLL time attacks and maybe learn partial edge control to get easier OLL cases.
You could try learning more OLL cases but for now, try to work on recognition and execution.

Ok. I use sledgehammer for some cases but I learned the dot olls so I just use those. I'll practice time attacks. I can sub-3 every pll and sub-2 h, both js, t, both us, y and z. How can I improve recognition? Mine is kinda slow. For plls I mean. Oll recognition is usually good.

 

[Username]

Ok. I use sledgehammer for some cases but I learned the dot olls so I just use those. I'll practice time attacks. I can sub-3 every pll and sub-2 h, both js, t, both us, y and z. How can I improve recognition? Mine is kinda slow. For plls I mean. Oll recognition is usually good.

Drill PLLs until you can sub 2 all of them, learn to recognize PLL first from 3 sides, then from 2.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

Ok. I use sledgehammer for some cases but I learned the dot olls so I just use those. I'll practice time attacks. I can sub-3 every pll and sub-2 h, both js, t, both us, y and z. How can I improve recognition? Mine is kinda slow. For plls I mean. Oll recognition is usually good.

If you go to my channel I have a PLL tutorial with some tips on recognition. It's not done yet but it's close enough to being done (just need intro and A perms). The way I recognize cases is looking at what is solved, what is not solved, blocks, headlights, and opposite/not opposite colors. I might do a separate video on just PLL recognition later but I think Sarah Strong had a really good tutorial

EDIT: found it

 

[crazycubes]

I know 2 look oll and pll. my timing is around 40 sec and i guess it'll improve if i look ahead. My look ahead is really bad for the record. So will learning full oll improve my timings significantly?

 

[Username]

I know 2 look oll and pll. my timing is around 40 sec and i guess it'll improve if i look ahead. My look ahead is really bad for the record. So will learning full oll improve my timings significantly?

You don't need OLL yet. I don't even know full OLL and I'm sub 15

 

[Wassili]

I know 2 look oll and pll. my timing is around 40 sec and i guess it'll improve if i look ahead. My look ahead is really bad for the record. So will learning full oll improve my timings significantly?

Full OLL only gets you around 2 seconds faster. Learn it when you are sub-20 or even sub-15.

 

[crazycubes]

Full OLL only gets you around 2 seconds faster. Learn it when you are sub-20 or even sub-15.

ok thanks i'll do that.

You don't need OLL yet. I don't even know full OLL and I'm sub 15

Whoa! thats cool! Do u use f2l( the fridrich one) ?

 

[kcl]

ok thanks i'll do that.

Whoa! thats cool! Do u use f2l( the fridrich one) ?

Yes, he uses CFOP. (Actual name for fridrich method)