[Help Thread] F2L Intuitive vs. Algorithm Solving

How did you learn your F2L? Intuitively or with Algs?

  • Intuitively

    Votes: 389 88.2%

  • Algorithmic

    Votes: 52 11.8%
  • Total voters
    441
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I learned it intuitively first, and then, once I was comfortable with it, I looked at the F2L Algorithms, to see how far off I was.
There were a total of 10 algs that had better/less moves, so I started using those. They were all the tricky cases, too.
 
Your post is still relevant, but since a thread already existed for the topic being discussed, I merged the two threads. My reply in the thread is simply because I have started posting some form of notice that I have merged two threads when I do this. This is to avoid any confusion.
 
I like intuitive. Along the way, you'll develop your own tricks and will have a better understanding of the cube. Plus learning all those algs will be a pain in the butt. You should learn Algs for hard/awkward cases though. They're really usefull and effecient.
 
Algorithms are very useful in F2L once you're able to do it intuitively.
Take this for example: setup R U' R' U F' U2 F R U2 R'
I didn't see it could be done with (R U R' U')*3 until I checked an algorithm page.
 
Okay guys.
I used alg. for my f2l.
i've been speedcubing for exactly 4 months now.
I average 15-18 sec. usually early 16s and late 17s
what i mean by speedcubing is the day i got a sub 1min solve.
Okay and how many algs i know for my f2l??
hehe
164.
41 standard cases * 4 different angles.
and 78 more for LL.
which is 242 total.
i dont know how i got that all in my head but i'm just and "algorithm guy"
i like to memorize those hehe

okay. now the real part. Int vs alg.
first of all, what do you think is most important on f2l.?
diff angles? look ahead? empty sloting? muti slotting?
i'll vote for look ahead.
now compare int, and alg.
you can actually learn f2l intuitive in a day.
you just gotta understand from a vid. or something.
on algs. if you do it pretty fast you can memorize it in a week, and or even more. sometimes months. it took me 5 days. hehe
if you do it intuitively, i guess you have to practice alot to be able to look ahead, which means you'll be able to do it not seeing.
what does that mean ?
do it blind folded??
muscle memory!
which means you're making your own algs for your f2l.
and trying to cram those 41 case in you memory at the same time, just trying it again and again.
hmm. it sounds like im going too against intuitive. sorry didn't meant to do that ,but that's my oppinion.

okay now for algs.
you're going over each algs and memorizing them.
which means you can start looking ahead right after learning them all.
and experience from my friends and i, algs are much faster to get faster.
mmm. i'll say much quiker(takes less period of time) to get faster time.(solving time.)
and even though you use algs. you actualy eventually going to understand how it works.
 
For a beginner's method user trying to learn F2L algs is essential to the understanding progress. Yes, I tried learning F2L algs and could not remember a single one of them. But one thing beneficial about it is the fact that you can see how to make the pairs while executing algorithms. This is actually the way I learned F2L. During some months I revisited my F2L and eliminated quite many useless moves, making my F2L more efficient.
If you can't understand the concept of F2L, find algs and try learning it in this way.
 
i started to attempt to learn algorithmic F2L, but then stopped and learned it intuitively because i felt then that it would be better to feel what i had to do rather than look t a case and try to match it with the algorithm, and f2l isn't that complicated to figure out i feel. later when i started looking at the algorithms for cases i felt i didn't do as well as i should, i realized i was basically doing the algorithms anyway. Besides, i personally find it more fun to figure out some things, and if you think about it, alot of algorithms are made from intuitive approaches anyway :|
 
Intuitive F2L is a great thing, because it teaches you fundamentals of the cube that will help later on.
 
F2L Intuitively VS. Algs

So what is your prefrance for F2L? Maybe get some Pros and Con of each way. I personally have never used algs. untill now, I am learning full edge control, so I do not waste time/moves with EOLL.
 
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Re: F2L Intuitively VS. Algs

I've learned a grand total of 0 f2l algorithms. Always did like intuitively
 
It's difficult to draw a line between the two. After learning intuitively, its just turns into an ALg. And when you learn a alg, you watch what it does and break it down into its intuitive steps in a completely different way to learning a pll alg. I don't think anyone does one or the other, as the end result i always the same.
 
applemobile's right.
After you've learned F2L (however you've decided to learn it), watch the pieces so you understand the relationship between the moves you make and the pieces you're solving. You could even make your own "algs" for certain cases.
Some people here would argue to learn how to solve F2L intuitively while looking crappy cases up on F2L websites or generating solutions for them with CubeExplorer.
 
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