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I just got a 5x5, I knew how to solve one since becuase of 4x4, I used the reduction method and averaged 4 mins, I switched to a hybrid of Yau and Yau5 the next day and now I average 3 mins, what's next?
 

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I just got a 5x5, I knew how to solve one since becuase of 4x4, I used the reduction method and averaged 4 mins, I switched to a hybrid of Yau and Yau5 the next day and now I average 3 mins, what's next?
Switch back to redux, be color neutral, work on look-ahead during edges, learn optimal L2C, learn at least 3 or 4 L2E cases, and grind.
 

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First 3 about 5x5
1. Currently I use Hoya, and after I finish L2C I start pair all of the E layer edges. After I finish that I solve the back two slots, then pair the last 4 yellow edges. Is this a bad method?
2. Is there a speed difference between solving edges in the m layer vs the e layer?
3. I average about 1:30, how long could it take to get sub 1:00. I know this depends on a few factors, but what is the best case scenario?
4. How much will 5x5 practice effect my 4x4 times?
5. Is being Hoya/Yau/Redux method neutral worth it if I already know and can do well on all of them?
 
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5. Is being Hoya/Yau/Redux method neutral worth it if I already know and can do well on all of them
Option select on 3x3 is already controvercial enough(although very impressive).
After F2C, you have two other problems
You need to recognise and decide during the solve.
You have both Centers and Tredges to evaluate and that is a LOT of pieces to look after.
 

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First 3 about 5x5
1. Currently I use Hoya, and after I finish L2C I start pair all of the E layer edges. After I finish that I solve the back two slots, then pair the last 4 yellow edges. Is this a bad method?
2. Is there a speed difference between solving edges in the m layer vs the e layer?
3. I average about 1:30, how long could it take to get sub 1:00. I know this depends on a few factors, but what is the best case scenario?
4. How much will 5x5 practice effect my 4x4 times?
5. Is being Hoya/Yau/Redux method neutral worth it if I already know and can do well on all of them?
Depends on what method you use for 4 and 5. If they are both Hoya, then very much. But Yau and Hoya, then you could get weird results.
Personally, I use Redux for 5 because I cannot handle that much restriction, but Yau for 4 because I am able to handle it somewhat.
 

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How do you solve 5x5 edges after doing the centres, without having to rotate and look for pieces in both layers, with Redux?
Look for blocks or easy cases on the edges you can see without rotating, solve them and insert into the slots you can't see. Nothing wrong with having a default color to look for if you don't see anything easy, but passing up an easy case because it's the wrong color is silly. And sometimes you need to rotate.
 

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my suggestion for solving 5x5,
if you get many 2 of 3 edge pieces already solved after solving the center, dont do freeslice, to me it is harder.
just solve the edge one by one
You do Edges in Freeslice without having all centers done?
 

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1. was looking at Cubeskills' Yau5 tutorial and it says you solve the centres and then solve the last cross edge, but J-Perm's video about Yau5 says you make all the cross edges and then solve the centres so you can immediately transition into edge-pairing. Personally i solve the centres and then pair up the last cross edge before going into edge pairing, which is considerably easier?
2. What time barrier on 5x5 is comparable to 1 minute on 4x4
3. Is it possible to get sub-2 with just the basic algs? I know parity and edge-pairing (slice-flip-slice). I dont wanna learn algs for L2E yet and L2C is mostly intuitive.
 
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1. was looking at Cubeskills' Yau5 tutorial and it says you solve the centres and then solve the last cross edge, but J-Perm's video about Yau5 says you make all the cross edges and then solve the centres so you can immediately transition into edge-pairing. Personally i solve the centres and then pair up the last cross edge before going into edge pairing, which is considerably easier?
2. What time barrier on 5x5 is comparable to 1 minute on 4x4
3. Is it possible to get sub-2 with just the basic algs? I know parity and edge-pairing (slice-flip-slice). I dont wanna learn algs for L2E yet and L2C is mostly intuitive.
at least u should learn very basic 2 alg for edge parity case.

1. is same as OLL parity on 4x4, but if u use Lucas parity, include middle layer on second Rw' so it will be

Rw U2, X, Rw U2, Rw U2 , Rw' U2, Lw U2, 3Rw' U2, Rw U2, Rw' U2, Rw'

if u use Drew parity, nothing changed

2. second is Lw' U2 Lw' U2 F2 Lw' F2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Lw2
 
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