You don't need to learn a faster LL. You can get sub 9 with OCLL/PLL. The main things to work on are your LL TPS (sub 1.5 every PLL and OCLL) and make sure you inspect EOLine every solve (make sure you do EOCross though). Also, don't do dumb solutions.
can someone give tips for being sub 20 with zz? I use the OCLL/PLL last layer with some COLL's and average about 22. When I become sub 20, i'll learn a faster LL
ZZ blockbuilding is full of RUL gen moves. RUL gen moves on 2021 hardware needs delicate hands. CFOP is the fastest on the current hardware as most of the algs are RUF. I would suggest you deliberately practice your RUL turning and see some timing improvements in your ZZ solves.
It's great to see other ZZ users around! I use ZZ for mostly the same reasons that you noted, so I totally understand. Regarding the different types of EO steps, if you're comfortable with EOLine, then you can stick with that, as you'll still be able to use blocks. If you want a bit more ergonomically focused (albeit less interesting imo) start, then EOCross is generally what most fast people are using nowadays.Years ago when I got into cubing, I learned the ZZ method, as no cube rotations really appealed to me, as well as the versatile F2L that it allows, letting you build blocks with the white colored blocks, effectively doubling the amount of blocks you can make, and the automatic top cross solve.
I can solve the cube in around 30 seconds, best solve around 21 seconds. I know full COLL, and 2 step PLL (basic cuber corner permutation + H perm/Z perm/Ua perm/Ub perm). I don't know an algorithm for when corners are opposite colors, I just do corner perm algo twice.
I looked at the ZZ wiki and it seems it's blown up and there are now dozens of methods to augment it. I don't even know where to begin. There are different EOLine methods, phasing, lots of different ZBLL, etc. I'm a bit overwhelmed. I'd like to get faster sure, but it takes me at least 2-3 seconds to just do Z perm at my best, after practice. I use an old Dayan Zhanchi, so no magnetic cube here. I don't expect to be anywhere near Felix Zemdegs or whoever is fastest nowadays.
Because of my physical limitations or whatever, I really like methods that solve other portions of the cube, like how ZZ forms the yellow cross. I'm looking for a very efficient type of thing, like what phasing seems to be maybe? Lowest possible algorithm count, I like intuition, even though I'm bad at EOLine. Maybe something along the lines of FMC is better for me, though I do want to get sub 20 eventually, maybe even sub 10 if I can.
Can anyone help me navigate this cubing maze?
Just busting a myth: RUL turning does not require delicate hands. In a ZZ context, using EOCross, RUL can be more TPS spammy than CFOP - it's very not delicate!ZZ blockbuilding is full of RUL gen moves. RUL gen moves on 2021 hardware needs delicate hands. CFOP is the fastest on the current hardware as most of the algs are RUF. I would suggest you deliberately practice your RUL turning and see some timing improvements in your ZZ solves.
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