[Help Thread] F2L Intuitive vs. Algorithm Solving

[Kaneki Uchiha]

i agree

 

[xcross]

Intuitive. In algorithmic F2L you cant be flexible and use every case to connect with other cases. It leads into thing like Multi Slotting, Keyhole, Psuedo, etc. Besides, intuitive F2L is just making your own algs, no reason to learn other peoples algs. It makes your algs 100% muscle memory. No reason not to use intuitive.

 

[Kaneki Uchiha]

but its hard to insert in the back slots without rotations

 

[xcross]

Intuitive fixes that. You can come up with ways to solve every case. Including how to insert into the back.

 

[Deleted member 51471]

but its hard to insert in the back slots without rotations

Use f moves. Instead of doing y R U' R' for instance, you could do f R' f'

 

[Kaneki Uchiha]

Intuitive fixes that. You can come up with ways to solve every case. Including how to insert into the back.

i use intuitive f2l
guess i am not good at it

Use f moves. Instead of doing y R U' R' for instance, you could do f R' f'

can u elaborate

 

[Deleted member 51471]

i use intuitive f2l
guess i am not good at it

A lot of algorithms have y moves in them too.

alg.cubing.net

alg.cubing.net

Rotationless F2L with no B moves.

 

[Micah Morrison]

start with intuitive f2l and learn algs for cases that are inefficient/have multiple rotations

 

[Owen Morrison]

also you can use r' U' R U M' to insert an F2L pair into the back right or it's mirror for the BL slot.

make sure to use your left pinky for the M'

This probably made my times that have this case like 0.75 seconds faster

 

[Deleted member 51471]

also you can use r' U' R U M' to insert an F2L pair into the back right or it's mirror for the BL slot.

make sure to use your left pinky for the M'

This probably made my times that have this case like 0.75 seconds faster

U f R' f' is better.

 

[Micah Morrison]

also you can use r' U' R U M' to insert an F2L pair into the back right or it's mirror for the BL slot.

make sure to use your left pinky for the M'

This probably made my times that have this case like 0.75 seconds faster

I use my left ring finger for the M' but yes it's a very useful alg.

U f R' f' is better.

I guess it's just personal preference. I personally prefer the one @Owen Morrison mentioned because it doesn't have any regrips but your alg is shorter

 

[Kaneki Uchiha]

so to insert into the bacjk slot u do r' u' r u m'

if the pair is made right

 

[crazycuber36]

Intuitive, because using intuitive means making up your own algs on your own which is easier to remember and recognize if its something you made up versus something someone else made up. Plus it can be more flexible when you use other strategies like multisloting, finding shortcuts, and loop holes to allow you to cut down on your turns, as others have said

 

[PetrusQuber]

Intuitive, though you might want to learn algs for some of the harder cases. In the end, the two are the same anyway, so you can refine your algs at that point.

 

[Sub1Hour]

Intuitive is better especially since most of the cases can be done with 2 gen. Its also easier to influence OLL without learning vls

 

[Owen Morrison]

so to insert into the bacjk slot u do r' u' r u m'

if the pair is made right

no it is r' U' R U M'

lower case letters mean that you turn two faces, so r' means you turn the right side and the middle counterclockwise.

 

[Deleted member 51471]

If you really want rotationless solving that badly I would recommend roux or ZZ.

 

[brododragon]

If you really want rotationless solving that badly I would recommend roux or ZZ.

I bet there's a rotationless version of Zuper Customisable.

 

[alexiscubing]

I use intuitive and have never looked at an algorithmic F2L page
I only learnt 3 move inserts after I was sub 18, and I literally relied on TPS alone for good solves. At one point, when I averaged 21 I did an FMC mean, and in 3 hours of solving, I couldn't fins a sub 80 move solution.
I now use trash F2L, but all pairs are solved relatively fast, even if they are inefficient and they are almost always 2 gen. Any tips to learn F2L?

 

[NevEr_QeyX]

U f R' f' is better.

Also if you are nervous that one is easy to mess up