[Help Thread] Big Cubes Discussion

[Discomantis]

So I have a comp with 4x4 and 5x5 in a few months and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to become fully color neutral. I use the Yau method for all big cubes and I am white/yellow/red color neutral for cross edges. Also, if I were to become color neutral, would it be a better idea to learn either green or blue cross edges, (in order to be color neutral for centers) or should I learn how to solve on all yau cross colors. (That is learn how to solve on orange, green, and blue cross colors.)

 

[OreKehStrah]

So I have a comp with 4x4 and 5x5 in a few months and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to become fully color neutral. I use the Yau method for all big cubes and I am white/yellow/red color neutral for cross edges. Also, if I were to become color neutral, would it be a better idea to learn either green or blue cross edges, (in order to be color neutral for centers) or should I learn how to solve on all yau cross colors. (That is learn how to solve on orange, green, and blue cross colors.)

If you’re gonna do color neutral you might as well just go for full CN.

That said, between blue or green cross, pick green. You’ll get more contrast with blue last layer. With the standard color scheme, I think it’s best to solve on yellow, green, or orange to maximize contrast in the LL.

 

[Discomantis]

If you’re gonna do color neutral you might as well just go for full CN.

That said, between blue or green cross, pick green. You’ll get more contrast with blue last layer. With the standard color scheme, I think it’s best to solve on yellow, green, or orange to maximize contrast in the LL.

What do you mean by color contrast?

 

[Thom S.]

What do you mean by color contrast?

Have you ever cubed in bad light and had trouble telling white and yellow apart? Or do you know a guy thst has a mild form of colourblindness, that just annoys to tell two adjacent colours apart?

This is partially the reason Mats Valk likes Green cross so much. It helps them differentiate LL.

Colour contrast is a huge thing in the outside of cubing world on how colours clash with each other and how you are able to see those.
You might not be red-green blind and still have trouble reading red text on green background if the shades are right, as an example.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I want to switch to YAU on 4x4 but my pb avg12 is 1:52.
should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?

 

[Tabe]

I want to switch to YAU on 4x4 but my pb avg12 is 1:52.
should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch now?

The answer to "should I switch to a better method?" is always "yes".

 

[One Wheel]

I want to switch to YAU on 4x4 but my pb avg12 is 1:52.
should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?

Yau is just a modified redux, if you understand enough to consistently solve a 4x4 you know enough to switch to Yau.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

The answer to "should I switch to a better method?" is always "yes".

well that was not my question. =P

Yau is just a modified redux, if you understand enough to consistently solve a 4x4 you know enough to switch to Yau.

thanks!

 

[One Wheel]

well that was not my question. =P

Yau is a better version of redux, so actually that was your question.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Yau is a better version of redux, so actually that was your question.

you're not interpreting things right

My question was if I should switch NOW or wait more while I improved further with reduction, not if I SHOULD OR NOT change to the better method. I already decided to change, that was not the question

think this way, oll is better than 2 look oll, but many cubers wait a lot before changing. some are sub10 and still don't know full oll

so I was thinking if it would be better to improve even more with centers and edges pairing before changing to yau or just switch immediately

the question was "should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?", not simply "should I switch to a better method?"

 

[One Wheel]

you're not interpreting things right

My question was if I should switch NOW or wait more while I improved further with reduction, not if I SHOULD OR NOT change to the better method. I already decided to change, that was not the question

think this way, oll is better than 2 look oll, but many cubers wait a lot before changing. some are sub10 and still don't know full oll

so I was thinking if it would be better to improve even more with centers and edges before changing to yau or just switch immediately

the question was "should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?", not simply "should I switch to a better method?"

I think you may be misunderstanding Yau. I've been cubing for about 8 years and still use mostly 2-look OLL because I'm too lazy to learn new algorithms. There are no new algorithms to learn for Yau, it's just doing the redux steps in a different order.

 

[ProStar]

you're not interpreting things right

My question was if I should switch NOW or wait more while I improved further with reduction, not if I SHOULD OR NOT change to the better method. I already decided to change, that was not the question

think this way, oll is better than 2 look oll, but many cubers wait a lot before changing. some are sub10 and still don't know full oll

so I was thinking if it would be better to improve even more with centers and edges pairing before changing to yau or just switch immediately

the question was "should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?", not simply "should I switch to a better method?"

Yes, it’s worth it to learn Yau now

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

you're not interpreting things right

My question was if I should switch NOW or wait more while I improved further with reduction, not if I SHOULD OR NOT change to the better method. I already decided to change, that was not the question

think this way, oll is better than 2 look oll, but many cubers wait a lot before changing. some are sub10 and still don't know full oll

so I was thinking if it would be better to improve even more with centers and edges pairing before changing to yau or just switch immediately

the question was "should I stick with reduction for a while until I drop my times even more or switch ASAP?", not simply "should I switch to a better method?"

Just switch to yau, the earlier you switch the more time you'll have to build experience with it. I don't see any reason to wait, why would you build experience with a method that will be useless in the long run?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I think you may be misunderstanding Yau. I've been cubing for about 8 years and still use mostly 2-look OLL because I'm too lazy to learn new algorithms. There are no new algorithms to learn for Yau, it's just doing the redux steps in a different order.

Yes, it’s worth it to learn Yau now

Just switch to yau, the earlier you switch the more time you'll have to build experience with it. I don't see any reason to wait, why would you build experience with a method that will be useless in the long run?

Ok guys thanks

 

[goodatthis]

Been out of cubing for a while so at one point I probably knew the answer to this, but:

Could someone give (or link me to) an approximate breakdown of how fast I should be solving each stage to get sub-5:00 on 7x7?

Currently I average around 6:00 and my breakdown is roughly

first 2 centers: 1:00
next 4 centers: 2:00
F8E: 2:00
L4E: 0:40
3x3: 0:20.

 

[Sub1Hour]

Just do more solves. If you want some good resources look at some of Kevin Hays’ old content, Tuesday tips specifically

 

[goodatthis]

Just do more solves. If you want some good resources look at some of Kevin Hays’ old content, Tuesday tips specifically

Yup I’ve seen probably all of them, now that I have a full-time job I have to budget my time and try to focus on my weak areas

 

[Sub1Hour]

Improvement will come with volume of solves. If you take the train to work or have some extra time in between doing things then some slow solves will help a lot. Try and get creative and use some unorthodox techniques during edges and especially centers

 

[goodatthis]

Improvement will come with volume of solves. If you take the train to work or have some extra time in between doing things then some slow solves will help a lot. Try and get creative and use some unorthodox techniques during edges and especially centers

Again, I’m just asking for a rough time breakdown, I appreciate the advice but none of this is new to me. I’ve always progressed fastest when I spend time to specifically work on my weakest areas.

 

[artless1der]

Yup I’ve seen probably all of them, now that I have a full-time job I have to budget my time and try to focus on my weak areas

another real good resource for big cubes is Feliks Zemdegs' CUBESKILLS channel on YT...

he has some playlists specifically for big cubes and for different levels of solvers