Beginners Time.

Fellow pandas unite! :) lol

Work on F2L, you'll be hearing that until you're sub-15, and then you'll hear it even more! :)

And for the race to sub-30 thread, what you do is the person who starts it posts scrambles each week. You use those scrambles and get an average and you post it in the thread. He keeps a list of everyone and you can trackthe progress your making because new scrambles are posted each week!

Good luck and happy cubing!
 
SpacePanda15 said:
Fellow pandas unite! :) lol

Work on F2L, you'll be hearing that until you're sub-15, and then you'll hear it even more! :)

And for the race to sub-30 thread, what you do is the person who starts it posts scrambles each week. You use those scrambles and get an average and you post it in the thread. He keeps a list of everyone and you can trackthe progress your making because new scrambles are posted each week!

Good luck and happy cubing!
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i know im learning oll and pll first
 
SpacePanda15 said:
Fellow pandas unite! :) lol

Work on F2L, you'll be hearing that until you're sub-15, and then you'll hear it even more! :)

And for the race to sub-30 thread, what you do is the person who starts it posts scrambles each week. You use those scrambles and get an average and you post it in the thread. He keeps a list of everyone and you can trackthe progress your making because new scrambles are posted each week!

Good luck and happy cubing!
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Yeah Im kinda going back and forth betweem F2L and PLL. I hear those are the 2 most important.
 
PandaCuber said:
Yeah Im kinda going back and forth betweem F2L and PLL. I hear those are the 2 most important.
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F2L is more important imho - at least for noobs (I'm prolly the biggest noob in this forum!) - I personally find a ton of room for improvent in my F2L - many long pauses, meaning that working on look-ahead can significantly decrease my overall solve time.
 
DaveyCow said:
F2L is more important imho - at least for noobs (I'm prolly the biggest noob in this forum!) - I personally find a ton of room for improvent in my F2L - many long pauses, meaning that working on look-ahead can significantly decrease my overall solve time.
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Oh yeah what Ive done is that I learn the most important PLL's and now im working on my F2L.
Before my f2ls were around ~23 and i got ~37 solves(with 4lookPLL)
Now my f2ls are around ~17 and now im getting ~28 averages(fullPLL)

Really, i dont understand how it takes me 10 seconds to do OLL and PLL, but whatever. :p

So work on both!
 
I'm usually one who stresses the importance of F2L. What exactly do you mean when you say you "did F2L"? Are you just saying you switching from LBL to F2L? I would suggest you just work on solving and practicing with what you know so that you can get a more steady improvement later on. Chances are all the algorithms you are learning now won't fit your preference in the future when your turning preferences become more refined and specific. When I say "steady improvement" I'm talking about this phenomena I seem to see all too often with newcomers, where they learn tons of algorithms in the beginning, and then find themselves running face first into a wall where their F2L is desperately far behind the rest of their solve, and they have to work incredibly hard before they can improve any degree. It's easier to learn some algorithms and practice turning than it is to improve your efficiency or look ahead. That's why I always say you should practice it first, and give yourself a good foundation.
 
Sn3kyPandaMan said:
I'm usually one who stresses the importance of F2L. What exactly do you mean when you say you "did F2L"? Are you just saying you switching from LBL to F2L? I would suggest you just work on solving and practicing with what you know so that you can get a more steady improvement later on. Chances are all the algorithms you are learning now won't fit your preference in the future when your turning preferences become more refined and specific. When I say "steady improvement" I'm talking about this phenomena I seem to see all too often with newcomers, where they learn tons of algorithms in the beginning, and then find themselves running face first into a wall where their F2L is desperately far behind the rest of their solve, and they have to work incredibly hard before they can improve any degree. It's easier to learn some algorithms and practice turning than it is to improve your efficiency or look ahead. That's why I always say you should practice it first, and give yourself a good foundation.
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Who are you talking to? xD
If it's me, then I know intuitive f2l and i havent used the LBL in MONTHS.
My main focus now is finding better PLL algorithms and my look ahead for F2L. I think my turning speed is too fast and it slows me down,
 
PandaCuber said:
Ohh. well i know more oll than pll so i should flip my whole practice?
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You definitely should learn full PLL First. It's really very easy to memorize the algs, IF you get GOOD algs. All you have to do is relate them to the correct letter. ( A perm, E perm, etc....) The PLLs are longer algs than OLLs, so it's better to only have to do one. They are much easier to learn than the 57 OLLs. It took me a good part of a year to learn full OLL and PLL. Learn one alg a day. To recognize which PLL case you have, you need to match up the most pieces you can that are grouped together. In other words, if you have 2 blocks of 2 pieces and one block of 3 on another side, you would want to match up the 3 block rather than the 2 blocks of 2, because it's more pieces together. Another example, if you have a block on one side and headlights on another, you would match the block rather than the headlights because the block pieces are together, whereas the headlights are 2 pieces separate from each other. The only one where you can't do this is the E perm because there are no pieces together. I think I have a video of this in my " Fridrich tutorial... sort of, Part 3 or 4" I forget which one. I believe it's part 3 because part 4 is about G perms. Anyway, it's easy to memorize an alg when its matched to a letter. With the OLLs, you only have a picture to recognize on the U face, and there can be slight differences that are hard to notice.
 
PandaCuber said:
Wow thanks!!
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Sorry man, but 5 AC is no way to learn LL algs. THey're ok for helping with F2L, although they no longer make videos, but with LL, they just say, go here or here. The separate members do have algs on their main channels, but a lot of the algs suck. Also, Badmephisto has very helpful videos, but the algs on his website are horrible and outdated. I've switched algs quite a bit over the past 2 years, and believe I have a decent collection. I'll link you to my PLLs in case you'd like to check them out. The video quality isn't good, but you can see what I'm doing. I will also link you to my Fridrich tutorial (sort of).

PLL part 1 ( A - G ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoh5yRckHY

PLL part 2 ( H - Z ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXlmmGCAE0

Fridrich cross video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6vFLVVa4Rg&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=4

F2L: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKjwV9xeAU&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=3

LL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBh8VuAKxjI&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=2

About G and N perms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dSR2SSJ90&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=1

Hope this helps.
 
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yockee said:
Sorry man, but 5 AC is no way to learn LL algs. THey're ok for helping with F2L, although they no longer make videos, but with LL, they just say, go here or here. The separate members do have algs on their main channels, but a lot of the algs suck. Also, Badmephisto has very helpful videos, but the algs on his website are horrible and outdated. I've switched algs quite a bit over the past 2 years, and believe I have a decent collection. I'll link you to my PLLs in case you'd like to check them out. The video quality isn't good, but you can see what I'm doing. I will also link you to my Fridrich tutorial (sort of).

PLL part 1 ( A - G ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXoh5yRckHY

PLL part 2 ( H - Z ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXlmmGCAE0

Fridrich cross video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6vFLVVa4Rg&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=4

F2L: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKjwV9xeAU&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=3

LL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBh8VuAKxjI&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=2

About G and N perms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dSR2SSJ90&list=PLC51152678D3DA351&index=1

Hope this helps.
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Even better lol. Lots to learn.. Now im about 75% done with PLL so ive been working on my F2L.
Trying to get that sub 13.
 
PandaCuber said:
Who are you talking to? xD
If it's me, then I know intuitive f2l and i havent used the LBL in MONTHS.
My main focus now is finding better PLL algorithms and my look ahead for F2L. I think my turning speed is too fast and it slows me down,
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I figured it was implied I was talking to the OP. Have you considered working on the efficiency of your solutions?
 
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