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A Roux guide for beginners

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#21
What's the point of Roux if you're already good with Fridrich? Seems like Fridrich is better, anyway. I tried this tutorial, but it seemed like most of the moves were way to tedious and intuitive.
That has got to be the most ignorant comment I've read in a while. There is no such thing as a, "better" or, "best" method.
 
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#26
Hi,
I learned CFOP but since the first days I've been interested in Block Building Methods.
Recently I decided to learn Roux too and in order to memorise the steps of the method I collected images and simple algs in a document.
I want to share this pdf hoping someone else (a beginner like me) can switch to this method quickly and see its potential.
Let me know for errors or how to improve the document.
the doc is here

thanks to waffo and the donovan's video tutorials
I would teach the people EO like Gilles roux teaches you to, and the L&R edges in LSE the way waffle teaches you, there are less scary-looking alg sheets(things like that scare noobs.)
 
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#27
Nice. I'm learning a beginner's Roux variation. The link's below. You guys probably know about it already, since someone on the forums pointed me towards it.

Planning on moving to a more pure Roux method once I'm comfortable with it. Right now I'm REALLY struggling with the last 6 edges. Especailly permutating the last edges.

I know eventually, I'll have to learn more algorithms, but I enjoy how intuitive Roux feels. The 30ish algorithms in this guide don't seem too bad. I'll go through it in the near future. Thanks.

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#28
What's the point of Roux if you're already good with Fridrich? Seems like Fridrich is better, anyway. I tried this tutorial, but it seemed like most of the moves were way to tedious and intuitive.
Roux is very good for FMC because of the low move count. It can also be okay for OH because you can put one side of the cube on the mat and press down on the cube in order to do M and M' moves, but ZZ (especially ZZ-CT) is better for OH, using mostly R and U moves for f2l.
 
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#29
Roux is very good for FMC because of the low move count. It can also be okay for OH because you can put one side of the cube on the mat and press down on the cube in order to do M and M' moves, but ZZ (especially ZZ-CT) is better for OH, using mostly R and U moves for f2l.
Erm, first of all, I think he probably has since forgotten about this question in the 4 years since he has asked it.

Secondly, Roux is horrible for FMC, because any M move counts as 2 moves in OBTM, which is the metric used by the WCA for counting moves. As the last 13 or so moves of the solve are LSE, any efficiency you gain in the beginning of the solve is demolished at the end.
 
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#30
Erm, first of all, I think he probably has since forgotten about this question in the 4 years since he has asked it.

Secondly, Roux is horrible for FMC, because any M move counts as 2 moves in OBTM, which is the metric used by the WCA for counting moves. As the last 13 or so moves of the solve are LSE, any efficiency you gain in the beginning of the solve is demolished at the end.
Roux isn't actually completely horrible for FMC. For a start you can actually use insertions which often mean that a Roux solve can be lower movecount than quite a few others.
 
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Roux isn't actually completely horrible for FMC. For a start you can actually use insertions which often mean that a Roux solve can be lower movecount than quite a few others.
Well *I* know that, for example especially if you get 2 3cycles, but I'm pretty sure he didn't have edge insertions in mind

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#35
I think , the part where beginners struggle the most is in the first block stage:

So this video might be of some help:

There is one better tutorial in English by OH WR#2 holder Kian:

Hope it helps!
 
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