[Help Thread] 2x2 Discussion

[kcl]

[Help Thread] 2x2 Help and Discussion Thread

what are the best egg algs? i should learn them.

Chris has the best ones.

edit: best variety of ones?

 

[scottishcuber]

Chris has the best ones.

I'm not too sure about that.

 

[Coolster01]

I'm not too sure about that.

Yeah, I personally used a mix of you, Jay, and Chris's algs.

 

[scottishcuber]

Yeah, I personally used a mix of you, Jay, and Chris's algs.

Same. Jay had quite a few gems when I last checked.

 

[Rubiks560]

I'm not too sure about that.

How many of mine are "bad"? Just curious. I know I've definitely learned some nice ones from you and Jay. I would say most of the algs on my site are pretty solid.

 

[Coolster01]

I would say most of the algs on my site are pretty solid.

A little more squishy than solid imo.

 

[Rubiks560]

A little more squishy than solid imo.

Which sets of algs? Quite curious which ones are bad.

 

[Coolster01]

Which sets of algs? Quite curious which ones are bad.

looool, just started going through algs for CLL and the second alg I see is nubby -- the diagsune xDDDDDDDD

You: U' R' F R2 F' R U2 R' U' R2
Everybody else: U' R' F R2 F' U' R' U' R2 U R'

There aren't actually that many bad ones. Just a few, but it depends on turning style (if you can do F' like a boss, then the Chris's diagsune is for you).

 

[Rubiks560]

looool, just started going through algs for CLL and the second alg I see is nubby -- the diagsune xDDDDDDDD

You: U' R' F R2 F' R U2 R' U' R2
Everybody else: U' R' F R2 F' U' R' U' R2 U R'

There aren't actually that many bad ones. Just a few, but it depends on turning style (if you can do F' like a boss, then the Chris's diagsune is for you).

Ah. I suppose in that case it would be preference. I thought you meant like the alg was just pure trash.
I still love my diag sune XD

 

[scottishcuber]

Which sets of algs? Quite curious which ones are bad.

Tbh yours is the best collection because you have all sets. It's just a few cases here and there, and with EG2 there are quite a few more bad algs.

Simple things like R2 F2 R2 F' R U R' U' R' F R instead of just doing F2 R2' F R U R' U' R' F R.

or U R' U R' U2 R U' R' U R U' B2 R2 instead of R2 F2 R U R' U2 R U' R' U R U' R2

 

[Rubik the Cubik]

2x2 methods

I've just got a 2x2 speed cube and would like to get faster. I have currently been solving it with a simplified version of CFOP that I use to solve the 3x3.

So far I have only found Ortega. From what I can tell I can use my OLL algs which are slightly slower and I just need to learn some XLL (not sure the exact name) to permutate the cube at the end.

What other methods are there? Any links to comparisons? Any links to guides for them?

Thanks

 

[StachuK1992]

I've just got a 2x2 speed cube and would like to get faster. I have currently been solving it with a simplified version of CFOP that I use to solve the 3x3.

So far I have only found Ortega. From what I can tell I can use my OLL algs which are slightly slower and I just need to learn some XLL (not sure the exact name) to permutate the cube at the end.

What other methods are there? Any links to comparisons? Any links to guides for them?

Thanks

https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Category:2x2x2_speedsolving_methods

The next logical progression is to learn CLL.
You can find some algs here: http://algdb.net/ although the site's a bit messy right now.

 

[dannah]

sub10 help on 2*2*2

i figured that as i am sub 30 on 3*3*3 i should average around 10 seconds on 2*2*2,using logic, but i average around 18 seconds using many different algorithims from different beginner methods, but i do not know how to get faster at 2*2*2, there are no videos, the world record solve was 0.69 seconds but he only did three moves, can you actually do 3 moves to solve it commenly?

 

[qqwref]

1) "i should average around 10 seconds on 2*2*2,using logic," - this is meaningless; you have to practice each event separately
2) "i do not know how to get faster at 2*2*2, there are no videos" - there are plenty of videos on youtube; I recommend Ortega for a beginner, and you can learn CLL or EG later if you want to get super fast
3) "the world record solve was 0.69 seconds but he only did three moves, can you actually do 3 moves to solve it commenly?" - it was 4 moves and no, of course not, a 4 move solve is very lucky and scrambles may take up to 11 moves to solve optimally

 

[Thecuber1]

What I would do is become color neutral on 2x2, especially because if you have a really easy first layer (LBL) and use good 2x2 OLL's, not 3x3 ones. Most cases are easy triggers, like the chameleon case, which is just sexy move, sledgehammer. (R U R' U') (R' F R F'). Also, learn complete PLL because it is just 2 cases and you can find really easy algorithms. I recommend CrazyBadCuber's LBL tutorial, which is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H-AwD4gyTA

 

[AlphaSheep]

Sub-10 on 2x2 is really easy. Here's what I did:

Step 1. learn Ortega method
Step 2. Practice lots

The secret to getting faster is really to never hesitate. I have a fairly slow turn speed but I can still average around 8 seconds with 2x2.

 

[adiwastu]

learn Ortega method!! It's only gives you 3 easy algs to memorize

 

[Coolster01]

a. The world record was four moves.
b. For 2x2 single does not determine who is the best. He is the worst guy you can get tips from (although he is sub10, you will want to get to sub3).
c. Practice, maybe learn ortega. Use intuition to build layers. It's all intuitive.

 

[SpeedCubeReview]

learn Ortega method!! It's only gives you 3 easy algs to memorize

This.

I honestly thought the same thing. My goal was to be sub 30 3x3 and sub 10!2x2 by December 2014. Ortega did it. It is not only just three more algorithms, but the are super easy to do.

 

[Bindedsa]

i do not know how to get faster at 2*2*2, there are no videos

Did you even look? In the future, please do some research, before posting.