[Help Thread] 2x2 Discussion

[alexiscubing]

That's LBL except instead of solving a layer you solve an adjacent swap

It is legit so much faster
I avg 5 with the other one

 

[ProStar]

It is legit so much faster
I avg 5 with the other one

Because you practice yours

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Do any1 knows full SS for 2x2?

I'm thinking of learning this before full EG

is it worth it?

please express you opinions

 

[ProStar]

Do any1 knows full SS for 2x2?

I'm thinking of learning this before full EG

is it worth it?

please express you opinions

I don't know it but I think your best bet is probably to learn CLL then EG, because CLL actually helps for EG. I'd imagine SS isn't much faster than Ortega, but I could be wrong.

 

[SdnS]

2x2 Ortega PBL Question
Now I’m not one to post a whole discussion on a topic with this magnitude, but I’m just curious about how it’s done and if I’m doing it wrong or if there is a proper way to do it before I get a bad habit. I basically dropped cubing a few months ago, and picked it back up recently. Decided to pick up 2x2 again and I only know the LBL method for 2x2 and average about 3-7 seconds using it, but I just recently learned full PBL, and I noticed I kept using the right algorithms for cases, but it would scramble up the cube and I realized sometimes the case would be flipped upside down. I’m wondering if that happens do you just rotate the cube mid-solve? Cause that doesn’t seem right to me considering that would slow down a solve by 1-3 seconds??

 

[alexiscubing]

I used to use PBL but switched to LBL because the cases are better. I am sub 3.5 with LBL and it is very good for avoiding rotations. I use the OLLS from Ortega as well

 

[SdnS]

I used to use PBL but switched to LBL because the cases are better. I am sub 3.5 with LBL and it is very good for avoiding rotations. I use the OLLS from Ortega as well

I am 100% more comfortable with LBL, but I stopped progressing and realized I either plateaued or I learned a better method, but I quickly realized there is 1 specific PBL case that can be upside down and I swear it’s impossible to tell your holding it right. (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

 

[Deleted member 52530]

no you don't have to rotate all the time. You should make the habit of bar on front, or no bar (risky).

If you have only the single bar on D, do F2 ALG

T PERM on bottom, D' R2 TPERM R2 D

Y PERM, rotate

 

[ProStar]

I used to use PBL but switched to LBL because the cases are better. I am sub 3.5 with LBL and it is very good for avoiding rotations. I use the OLLS from Ortega as well

LBL is worse than Ortega. It just is, no matter how you look at it. You can still be fast with LBL, but it takes wayyy more work than Ortega would

- LBL user

 

[BenChristman1]

1.5-month bump
@brododragon we should start a comp for every 1 month+ bump we get a point, but it has to be a necessary bump. (That's 1 point for me!)

- LBL user

You literally need to learn 5 algs for Ortega:
1. Adjacent swap on top: T/J perm (you already know)
2. Diagonal swap on top: Y perm (you already know)
3. Adjacent swap on both layers: R2 U' B2 U2 R2 U' R2
4. Diagonal swap on both layers: R2 F2 R2
5. Adjacent on top and diagonal on bottom: R U' R F2 R' U R'
#3-#5 are the only ones that you need to learn.

 

[brododragon]

1.5-month bump
@brododragon we should start a comp for every 1 month+ bump we get a point, but it has to be a necessary bump. (That's 1 point for me!)

It's on. I shall get my employees to destroy you. @ProStar @PetrusQuber @Ayce

BrodoBumpers: Read the challenge. Also, recruit some more people. I tried to recruit someone but the mods deleted my post and the mods are always right.

 

[BenChristman1]

It's on. I shall get my employees to destroy you. @ProStar @PetrusQuber @Ayce

BrodoBumpers: Read the challenge. Also, recruit some more people. I tried to recruit someone but the mods deleted my post and the mods are always right.

Teams aren't allowed. It is all individual.

 

[brododragon]

Teams aren't allowed. It is all individual.

Time to leak my password in the name of bumps!

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

1.5-month bump
@brododragon we should start a comp for every 1 month+ bump we get a point, but it has to be a necessary bump. (That's 1 point for me!)

You literally need to learn 5 algs for Ortega:
1. Adjacent swap on top: T/J perm (you already know)
2. Diagonal swap on top: Y perm (you already know)
3. Adjacent swap on both layers: R2 U' B2 U2 R2 U' R2
4. Diagonal swap on both layers: R2 F2 R2
5. Adjacent on top and diagonal on bottom: R U' R F2 R' U R'
#3-#5 are the only ones that you need to learn.

And Diag top Adj bottom
Adj bottom
Diag bottom
Also the 2x2 Diag top alg is much better than Y-perm

 

[ProStar]

1.5-month bump
@brododragon we should start a comp for every 1 month+ bump we get a point, but it has to be a necessary bump. (That's 1 point for me!)

You literally need to learn 5 algs for Ortega:
1. Adjacent swap on top: T/J perm (you already know)
2. Diagonal swap on top: Y perm (you already know)
3. Adjacent swap on both layers: R2 U' B2 U2 R2 U' R2
4. Diagonal swap on both layers: R2 F2 R2
5. Adjacent on top and diagonal on bottom: R U' R F2 R' U R'
#3-#5 are the only ones that you need to learn.

I'm completely aware of that, but I'm lazy and am planning to learn lots of different algs, and 2x2 isn't that high on my list

It's on. I shall get my employees to destroy you. @ProStar @PetrusQuber @Ayce

BrodoBumpers: Read the challenge. Also, recruit some more people. I tried to recruit someone but the mods deleted my post and the mods are always right.

I quit, remember?

 

[brododragon]

I quit, remember?

BUT WHY? Who started the reactolution, who hated the pizzabumpers, and who, uh, was your friend?

 

[ProStar]

BUT WHY? Who started the reactolution, who hated the pizzabumpers, and who, uh, was your friend?

Cause you kept spamming me with notifs. I'm not joining the Pizzabumpers though, they suck. I'm now a neutral party

 

[brododragon]

Cause you kept spamming me with notifs. I'm not joining the Pizzabumpers though, they suck. I'm now a neutral party

Alright, fair enough. You couldn't handle the bumps. Are you now a moderator of the bump war?

 

[ProStar]

Alright, fair enough. You couldn't handle the bumps. Are you now a moderator of the bump war?

Sure. I promise not to bias, assuming Pizzabumpers agree

(also we should probably delete these posts cause they're off topic)

 

[brododragon]

Sure. I promise not to bias, assuming Pizzabumpers agree

Being biased isn't necessarily a bad thing... *wink* *wink*