[Help Thread] 4x4 Discussion

[BoBoGuy]

What should I use
3-2-3 or 6-2 ??? Avg about 2 mins

Most fast Yau solvers use 323, but 62 is also a good method.

 

[Jaycee]

Collected parity stats on 50 4x4 solves:

1: no parity
2: PLL parity
3: OLL parity
4: Double parity

41413 21243 24321 31134 44133 12434 31312 23234 23123 13412

13 no parities (wow)
11 PLL parities only
15 OLL parities only
11 double parities

Of course when I actually track the OLL parities they're about even (26/24). Yesterday I had 12 OLL parities in 14 solves.

Note: This might not be the right thread, but I think "4x4 discussion" is applicable.

 

[uberCuber]

Collected parity stats on 50 4x4 solves:

13 no parities (wow)

Why does this get a "wow"? There is a 25% chance of having no parity on a given 4x4 solve, and 13/50 is almost exactly 25%.

 

[Jaycee]

Why does this get a "wow"? There is a 25% chance of having no parity on a given 4x4 solve, and 13/50 is almost exactly 25%.

Should've clarified. In my head I'm always complaining that I get parity way more often than I should. It's just my luck that when I actually track parity the stats work out how they should.

 

[ChickenWrap]

Hi-

I don't solve 4x4 much, but I use 3-3-2 edge pairing. Can someone explain how 6-2 works, since I don't really care for my current pairing method?

 

[TDM]

Hi-

I don't solve 4x4 much, but I use 3-3-2 edge pairing. Can someone explain how 6-2 works, since I don't really care for my current pairing method?

Do you know how to do the first 3 edges of 3-2-3? Well, instead of slicing first, you set up the edges first, then slice to pair them. Then you continue to pair the next 3 edges as you would do in the beginning of 3-2-3.

 

[UB]

Simply to add to his point, you break down the steps in 3-2-2 , the last 3 happens automatically. So you just slice, pair 3 edges up and then pair up the remaining 2 easily. There are video tutorials available if you didnt understand me.

Do you know how to do the first 3 edges of 3-2-3? Well, instead of slicing first, you set up the edges first, then slice to pair them. Then you continue to pair the next 3 edges as you would do in the beginning of 3-2-3.

 

[TDM]

Simply to add to his point, you break down the steps in 3-2-2 , the last 3 happens automatically. So you just slice, pair 3 edges up and then pair up the remaining 2 easily. There are video tutorials available if you didnt understand me.

No? The pairing is closer to 3-3-2 (your numbers don't add up), and you don't slice first. The steps in order are:

1. Set up 3 edge pairs
2. Slice
3. Set up another 3 edge pairs
4. Slice back
5. Solve the last two edges by setting up to Uw' R U R' F R' F' R Uw.

 

[UB]

I couldnt understand you but I learnt from here ==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N69GNk0ToHw

 

[Yuxuibbs]

Don't feel like reading through 80 pages

Any tips for making cross edges on left for yau?

I've been doing yau for over a year and until last week, I was making cross edges with white bottom yellow top and after 3/4 cross, rotating so that white is on right (averaged ~1:00-1:05 overall). I'm trying to switch to making cross edges with white on left and yellow on right so I don't need to rotate after 3/4 cross and having almost 2 gen last 4 centers but I'm having lots of trouble looking ahead (average anywhere between 56 and 1:16 depending on how fail my look ahead was while making cross edges).

 

[vcuber13]

Should've clarified. In my head I'm always complaining that I get parity way more often than I should. It's just my luck that when I actually track parity the stats work out how they should.

This is why:

SIMPLE SOLUTION:

Everyone thinks that they get lots and lots of G-perms because of negativity bias.

If you start liking G-perms, they will vanish.

 

[yoshinator]

Don't feel like reading through 80 pages

Any tips for making cross edges on left for yau?

I've been doing yau for over a year and until last week, I was making cross edges with white bottom yellow top and after 3/4 cross, rotating so that white is on right (averaged ~1:00-1:05 overall). I'm trying to switch to making cross edges with white on left and yellow on right so I don't need to rotate after 3/4 cross and having almost 2 gen last 4 centers but I'm having lots of trouble looking ahead (average anywhere between 56 and 1:16 depending on how fail my look ahead was while making cross edges).

1. Completely commit to the change. If you second guess yoursefl, you'll fail.
2 do lots of slow untimed solves, think about how to do thugs effociently. A cross edge really shouldn't take more than 6 or 7 moves.
3. Maybe watch my walkthrough solves on cubing world. (The cross edge specific ones)

Good luck!

 

[Bh13]

Hey all, so I use reduction and average about 1:05-1:10. I use double edge pairing, but should I be using a different type of pairing? (Like 6-2 or 3-2-3)
Thanks

 

[TDM]

Hey all, so I use reduction and average about 1:05-1:10. I use double edge pairing, but should I be using a different type of pairing? (Like 6-2 or 3-2-3)
Thanks

Yeah, 6-2 and 3-2-3 are both good edge pairing methods. Try both and see which you prefer.

 

[Bh13]

Okay thanks.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

1. Completely commit to the change. If you second guess yoursefl, you'll fail.
2 do lots of slow untimed solves, think about how to do thugs effociently. A cross edge really shouldn't take more than 6 or 7 moves.
3. Maybe watch my walkthrough solves on cubing world. (The cross edge specific ones)

Good luck!

I've been doing only cross edges on left for a few days already. I'll try watching your cubing world videos.

 

[vcuber13]

Is there a good way to do an I perm?

 

[Bhargav777]

Is there a good way to do an I perm?

E perm with pll parity, you mean?

 

[vcuber13]

Yes, that's what an I perm is.

 

[uberCuber]

Is there a good way to do an I perm?

F R U' R' U' R U R' F' (PLL parity) R U R' U' R' F R F'