Dayan vs. V-Cube Patent Infringement

[kastellorizo]

Sure, so why wasn't there a waiting period before the infringement report was filed to PayPal and EBay? Why not let this get through the courts first before filing the paper work?

I do not know enough details for this, and even if I dared to say,
I am sure some people will bash me and then claim *they* are the one being bashed.

 

[kastellorizo]

And no, this isn't a viable answer.

You are entitled to your opinion.

 

[HavoCentral]

Well thankfully if I only go thru 1 GuHong a week I'll have enough to last me 5 years or so..... Is if they designed it with a multicolor plastic. Atleast then the V3x3 could be banned from competition without bias.

Shoot... I've probably just given them too many ideas... Back to the drawing board Verdes!

I'm going to take some of the knock-off guhong parts I have lying around here and build a 3x3 illusion before they do. Or maybe the USA cube...

- Pixel -




I guess by then I can decide which GuHong will be my main.

LOLOLOLOL

I agree completely, how can they claim their V3 is so superior unless they have prototypes to test.
and instead of releasing all the novelty puzzles that are a waste of money, they should make good on their promises of the full V-Cube family, 2-11.

 

[Pixel 6]

Henry Ford style?

I mean it worked for Ford didn't it?

- Pixel -

 

[Kirjava]

Hey, kastellorizo. Since you're still posting here can you reply to the points I made in my post?

It's odd that you're replying to everyone else but ignoring me entirely.

Here's a handy link so you don't even have to go looking for it!

 

[gravityjoe35]

The link below is a petition that will actually be seen by Verdes. Sign if you want the guhong/lingyun back!!!

link: http://www.petitiononline.com/VeVsDa/petition.html

 

[Stefan]

Until the verdict is clear, it will be more logical/sensible/fair to wait. No?

Absolutely. Wish Verdes would do that.

This matter seems to be a rather complex one, and explaining it in detail here, among frustrated cubers is surely not a wise thing.

Um... many if not most are frustrated *because* it's not explained at all. I'm very confident that it would be a very wise thing to explain. Wouldn't even have to be in full detail.

It's odd that you're replying to everyone else

Though, what good are replies that aren't answers?

 

[Whyusosrs?]

I won't say more[...]
My part is done here, and I also hope this matter is resolved. [...]
Pantazis

Pantazis

Still posting

Before you made your assumption you were wrong.
After you did, you were right.

And again

I do not know enough details for this, and even if I dared to say,
I am sure some people will bash me and then claim *they* are the one being bashed.

And another time.

I think I missed one, but you should get my point. You said you would stop posting so stop posting or answer the real questions instead of nitpicking. kk? kk.

 

[tacgnol]

Before you made your assumption you were wrong.
After you did, you were right.

If there is no respect towards me, I cannot respect others
who make false assumptions.

Understandable. I've dealt with a similar situation.

It is also very understandable that you wish to only speak in PMs.

 

[HavoCentral]

The link below is a petition that will actually be seen by Verdes. Sign if you want the guhong/lingyun back!!!

link: http://www.petitiononline.com/VeVsDa/petition.html

I started the petition in hopes that V-Cube sees it and how much business they are losing, lets hope it works.

16 signatures left before 200, as of 5:47 Central Time

 

[Tyson]

I do not know enough details for this, and even if I dared to say,
I am sure some people will bash me and then claim *they* are the one being bashed.

Wait, what do you mean you don't know enough details? Isn't that what this entire thing is about? Or am I missing something? You're asking people to wait in terms of their judgement, but you find it perfectly acceptable to file injunctions with PayPal and EBay and cripple small business who are providing a service that V-Cubes has not entered, and frankly will never be V-Cubes' market anyway.

So if you don't know enough about the details of PayPal and EBay, why are you even in this discussion?

 

[kastellorizo]

Um... many if not most are frustrated *because* it's not explained at all. I'm very confident that it would be a very wise thing to explain. Wouldn't even have to be in full detail.?

Ugh... explain my opinion? Then what? Another hundred posts to reply for
"even more details"? No thanks.

I do not remember being the V-Cube lawyer anyway to be able to expand on this.

 

[Whyusosrs?]

In any case, I have responded to enough people.[...]

I won't say more,[...]

My part is done here[...]

Pantazis

Might I remind you of what you said two hours ago?

 

[kastellorizo]

Wait, what do you mean you don't know enough details? Isn't that what this entire thing is about? Or am I missing something? You're asking people to wait in terms of their judgement, but you find it perfectly acceptable to file injunctions with PayPal and EBay and cripple small business who are providing a service that V-Cubes has not entered, and frankly will never be V-Cubes' market anyway.

So if you don't know enough about the details of PayPal and EBay, why are you even in this discussion?

Yes, I am also not sure of what is going on the backstage, and I am also waiting. I only wanted to:

1. Support the decision (i.e. opinion - my "explanation" was about my opinion, not the ebay action!!!)
2. Give some hints for new releases to release some frustration (for which I was bashed instead!)

I have been spending more time defending myself than being able to even think to explain!
(and others did not care much to check what I have been saying - thank God someone did!)

Pantazis

 

[kastellorizo]

Might I remind you of what you said two hours ago?

If people were writing wrong assumptions and insults, would you stay or would you leave?
That is the question. It is not nice to patronise like that, as I am sure you know what is going on.

 

[Kirjava]

Though, what good are replies that aren't answers?

Better than being flat out ignored, at least I'd have something to work with then XD

 

[Tyson]

If people were writing wrong assumptions and insults, would you stay or would you leave?
That is the question. It is not nice to patronise like that, as I am sure you know what is going on.

I would defend myself with logic and facts, and if I had sound logic, and the facts to support my position, all the intelligent people on this forum would be defending me.

Do you understand the frustration of people on this forum? Would you care to summarize the other point of view, to show us that you indeed know what's going on? I'll summarize your side for you if you want.

 

[Kirjava]

If people were writing wrong assumptions and insults, would you stay or would you leave?

Awesome, since you haven't addressed anything I've said I can only assume that you think I'm completely right!

 

[HavoCentral]

I have been spending more time defending myself than being able to even think to explain!
(and others did not care much to check what I have been saying - thank God someone did!)

Pantazis

Instead of defending yourself, ignore us and have your precious time to think, then explain, and maybe you wont have to defend your self anymore.

btw, Have you missed your flight yet?

 

[cmhardw]

This thread is now closed.

Pantazis is under no obligation to add more detail to this discussion until V-cubes, who he is here representing, is ready to divulge this information.

For business owners who are affected by this decision, I strongly recommend that you contact V-cubes directly with your concerns, as well as sign the petition. Business owners who are upset about the decision to close this thread may contact me personally via PM for further discussion of how to continue addressing their concerns.

For those members who are upset about the prospect of GuHong cubes no longer being available, I would suggest that you sign the petition.

The arguing in this thread is accomplishing nothing in my opinion, and it will not continue. For those upset about the closing of the thread, please read the forum rules about what constitutes acceptable discussion on this forum. Any other duplicate versions of this thread will be closed and/or deleted until further information is divulged from the V-cube company either through Pantazis or another representative of the company. If you feel that the closing of this thread is premature, and you disagree with my actions, then you may take it up with an administrator or the forum owner via PM.

Happy cubing,
Chris