Dayan vs. V-Cube Patent Infringement

[EricReese]

OOOOOOO so this is what that email from Ebay was about. Somethin about my item..I'll quote it

MC999 eBay Listing Removed: (438362339)



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120640305552 - The Ultimate Lubix GuHong - DaYan 3x3 Cube BLACK

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...I was wondering what this was about

 

[emolover]

This is rediculas what v-cube is doing. It was ok for v-cubes to claim the maru was a KO but the gu hung?.... really. There shouldnt be patiants for 3x3 because there all really simalar to the rubix brand anyway. If v-cube does get rid of the GuHungs they need to realise there v3 at the same quality as dayan did. Its just starting to turn into a messed up monopoly with mefferts and v-cubes as complete allies, I would be ok with this if they didnt have such high prices. For example, the 5x5 cost 25$ 6x6 35 and 7x7 45. Where as YJ has made direct copies of Verdes' cubes and sells them for about half the v-cube price and there as good if not better. So if v-cubes does start cracking down on the KO companies, they need to release the products that there taking off the market. Didnt v-cubes announce there V2 though V11 like a full year ago? They shouldnt have done that untill they were much nearer to the time of finishing the cubes. Were as with Mefferts and most recent announcement, they are going to release it this december, the did the right thing in releasing it soon after announced.

 

[CubesOfTheWorld]

I am just getting flat out angry with Verdes. They are just sitting back, relaxing, and eliminating other cubes from the market. The GuHong was AMAZING! Verdes has to start making their own cubes instead of making everyone excited about an amazing cube, then saying that because the pieces come in multiple parts, then it infringes the V-Cube mechanism.
Bottom line: Verdes needs to take care of their own company before hurting other company.

 

[flan]

News just in guys, x cube 4 isn't coming out for another 4 years, and until then, no one can produce cubes with the same mechanism. Its in the interests of the community.

Anyway the world records can wait

 

[qqwref]

Yet this guy 'kastellorizo' seems to think that there is some obvious infringement here, and we all should have known that this was coming for months now.

Right, what's up with all the talk like "remember who brought this technology" and "some of you ... only care about your pockets" and "I won't support companies who copy", when most people (including myself) don't even agree that the GuHong is based off the V-3? This isn't an issue of an obvious knockoff like the Chinese 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 cubes - it's a new and popular 3x3x3 that is no more similar to the nonexistent V-3 than it is to any other 3x3x3 mechanism. We're not going to be made to feel guilty about buying a great cube that has a VERY iffy resemblance to a mechanism that nobody I know has tried out and that doesn't even have an official release date yet.

 

[Zarxrax]

It wouldn't surprise me if verdes trys to get the prevent the x-cube 4 from being sold as well.

 

[Keban]

this is pissing me off... i just got a lingyun so im safe, but its insane. its like the person who invented plastic is going after everyone who has plastic in their product.

 

[HavoCentral]

V-Cube is most likely the worst cubing company is. They are hurting the community more than halping it, according to cam cuber, they tried to tell him every cube on his site infringes their patent. Which is ridiculous.

According to V-Cubes patent info, and My lingyun, NO PIECE IS THE SAME. Cameron also said that the reason is because of the corner piece, which again looks nothing like their patents.
I mean sure V cubes has some good cubes, but instead of producing newer cubes, they have been targeting other companies.
Personally, I am never buying anything from V-Cube. And If they dont stop being the **** of the cubing community, i have a feeling other people will stop buying from them any ways.
Also, the maru 4 barly infringes their patent. They take their patents to literally, its not like they are not making money.

I say rubiks should sue them for coping their original 3x3 patent, Im sure rubiks could get away with it.




So does this mean the guhong and lingyun are now forum taboo like the maru 4 and other KOs?

 

[splinteh]

First the Maru 4x4x4, and now this? V Cubes, you're just making the speedcubing community hate you even more.

 

[CubeLTD]

I'm safe. =O. My Guhong was shipped today at 12:11 pm.

 

[HavoCentral]

I have started a petition to get the ruling overturned, not sure if it will help. but it is worth a shot.

so sign and check if you are boycotting verdes from now on.

 

[ElderKingpin]

i was just about to suggest it. i think a petition will at least help

 

[TheMachanga]

Dang it, no x-cube 4.

 

[Kirjava]

Most of the people agreeing with what Verdes is doing are biased.

While KV might have a legal ability/right to sue for patent infringement, he clearly has no moral/ethical right to do so. That has been covered in this thread already. The fact that he's even trying to remove these cubes from the market is absurd, it simply looks like he's trying to remove competition despite not even being in the 3x3x3 market yet.

KV should go after Rubik's next, the cubes they are producing are closer to the V Cubes design than the Guhongs are.

I don't think I'm going to give any money to someone who is damaging this community. I hope that others will join me.

 

[hatter]

How long does the process take for a decision to be legally made in these instances, does anyone know?

 

[rubiksczar]

I think everyone is taking this WAYY to seriously. I do not think it is very wise to say all these crazy things about Verdes. just because someone can't get a Guhong on Ebay doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

 

[Mr Cubism]

Verdes has burned his own ship with this......self-inflicted indeed!!

 

[Pixel 6]

Signed, and btw, Feliks got his Ultimate Lubix GuHongs in the mail last night. =]

Just in the nick of time.

- Pixel -

 

[Stefan]

Hmm, if the basis of their infringement claim is what I now think it is, I'm completely stumped why they/Pantazis aren't simply saying it, even when specifically asked for it. Looks to me like they want other manufacturers to fall into their trap. Add this to my list of their unethical things.

 

[Bryan]

I say rubiks should sue them for coping their original 3x3 patent, Im sure rubiks could get away with it.

You've shown your ignorance of the patent system. Please refrain from posting anything more about patents.

How long does the process take for a decision to be legally made in these instances, does anyone know?

Well, first a lawsuit would need to be filed before a decision could be made.....