Nir1213's Quest to Sub-20 with CFOP!

[Nir1213]

Yes you can but it's super slow, just learn the short 10 algs, you probably know 3 of them already.

welp ok then

 

[Kyle™]

Btw the cases for top stickers to be oriented using the combinations on Sune, can you give me any advice and more things about that, just curious.

Hey, sorry I was busy today. Here is the instruction I've given others. This is just to get your OLL times down in a single day, but in the long run you're going to want to learn full OLL. You hold the cube with F facing you, obviously, and look for the identifying stickers which have green arrows. On the first two cases, you would just apply the algorithms shown for Sune. For the next 3 cases, ( with 2 yellow corners oriented ) just make sure you have a yellow sticker at the top left, facing you, ( check the green arrow in the picture ) and apply the Right Sune alg ( R U R' U R U2 R' ).

For the cases where it's just a cross, have the headlights facing left, like in the pictures, and apply the Right Sune alg ( R U R' U R U2 R' ), After the first Sune, you'll be left with another Sune ( left or right, depending on the case ). If you just get fast at doing Sunes, you can get this step below 5 seconds even as a beginner.

I would recommend that you make sure you understand how to solve these using Sunes, and then work on ZBF2L until you feel comfortable moving on to more difficult things. When I learned ZBF2L, I would do a normal solve, and when I got to my last pair, I would just do the ZBF2L alg, then undo it, about 10 times; Then move on to another solve. Let me know if you have any questions. If you're having difficulties understanding any of this, I can make a video.

 

[Nir1213]

Thank you. I will learn the ZBF2L cases and algs first tho, then play with the Sunes.

 

[Skewb_Cube]

Thank you. I will learn the ZBF2L cases and algs first tho, then play with the Sunes.

Have you already learn intuitive F2L?

 

[Nir1213]

Have you already learn intuitive F2L?

uhhh yes

 

[Skewb_Cube]

uhhh yes

Nice, but make sure you understand F2L, even though is not that necessary, but it will help with your understanding about how things work during this step.

Good job.

 

[Nir1213]

its gonna take some time to remember all these ZBF2L cases and algs because im mostly busy everyday pretty much and all cases are a bit similar, so it will be hard to distinguish between them.

 

[Laila]

Yeah I was to be 1:50-2:00 around 5 weeks ago. I just practiced everyday and got better little by little. If you haven’t learned to solve the cross on the bottom yet that definitely helps. When I was around 1:00 average, I switched to Cfop and now I’m 35-50 average, so you’ll get better it just takes some time. And yeah getting a better cube is very helpful

 

[Nir1213]

Yeah I was to be 1:50-2:00 around 5 weeks ago. I just practiced everyday and got better little by little. If you haven’t learned to solve the cross on the bottom yet that definitely helps. When I was around 1:00 average, I switched to Cfop and now I’m 35-50 average, so you’ll get better it just takes some time. And yeah getting a better cube is very helpful

Sorry i have been busy i was inactive, but yea i got a new cube already and its the Moyu. Im gonna work on ZBF2L, thanks.

Does anyone know a trick to remember cases that "look similar, im afraid that i might mix up algs with another case and mess up.

 

[BenChristman1]

Does anyone know a trick to remember cases that "look similar, im afraid that i might mix up algs with another case and mess up.

You just do it, there really is no trick. It’s just looking at where headlights and bars/blocks are in relation to each other.

 

[Nir1213]

Ok, but can someone post the left versions of the case. I sometimes get the mirrored cases and I don't know what to do.

 

[Spacey10]

Ok, but can someone post the left versions of the case. I sometimes get the mirrored cases and I don't know what to do.

Just mirror it, it's intuitive

 

[Skewb_Cube]

Just mirror it, it's intuitive

Yeah, an example is the sexy move (R U R' U') and (L' U' L U) which the L' and U' version is mirrored of the R and U version or vice versa.

 

[Nir1213]

Yeah, an example is the sexy move (R U R' U') and (L' U' L U) which the L' and U' version is mirrored of the R and U version or vice versa.

OHH so its everything just in lefty version thanks. Right now the algs are hard to memorize so im putting parenthesis in similar batches of moves

 

[GAN CUBER]

Learn 2 look oll or 2 look pll full any one of them it made me avg 30 seconds

 

[Skewb_Cube]

OHH so its everything just in lefty version thanks. Right now the algs are hard to memorize so im putting parenthesis in similar batches of moves

The first alg mirrored is y' L F L' U2 L R' F L' R'

Learn 2 look oll or 2 look pll full any one of them it made me avg 30 seconds

Well, he needs to learn both, 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL. Because if he just learns 2 look OLL then it would be for nothing because after OLL you need PLL.

 

[GAN CUBER]

The first alg mirrored is y' L F L' U2 L R' F L' R'



Well, he needs to learn both, 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL. Because if he just learns 2 look OLL then it would be for nothing because after OLL you need PLL.

ya well he has to take time and learn and can't learn all of his algs in a day

 

[Skewb_Cube]

ya well he has to take time and learn and can't learn all of his algs in a day

Yeah, and this is just a general tip for learning algs because if you learn lots of algorithms in a day then it becomes overwhelming and you forget them easily.

 

[Nir1213]

AARRGHH the algs i cant do everytime i do them i mess up
i feel like 4lll is easier. The moves there are more relatable. ZBf2l might be better at lowering moves but it takes a bit time to execute. On one of the cases you have to rotate.

 

[Skewb_Cube]

AARRGHH the algs i cant do everytime i do them i mess up
i feel like 4lll is easier. The moves there are more relatable. ZBf2l might be better at lowering moves but it takes a bit time to execute. On one of the cases you have to rotate.

You are right, but when you get better at 3x3 you can focuse more in other algs sets other than OLL and PLL because learning ZBF2L I think is too much for your level, but you decide if you learn it or not later on.