[Help Thread] Roux Discussion and Help

[Owen Morrison]

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That is an outdated resource that is extremely biased and it is a terrible resource for beginners.

 

[ProStar]

That is an outdated resource that is extremely biased and it is a terrible resource for beginners.

Is that your unbiased opinion?

 

[Owen Morrison]

Is that your unbiased opinion?

Yes.

 

[u Cube]

Need help genning algs | Roux Subset
Making a roux subset where while inserting your last pair into sb you force eo, hopefully will be part of an even bigger project that I'm trying to work on. But this seems to have lots of algs and I will need help with some. It would help to be familiar with cube explorer and the roux method. PM me if interested. Also, if this already exists and I'm just an idiot please let me know

 

[ProStar]

This is just VHLS except you also need do take into account DF and DB. It's probably not a great idea though, since many CMLL algs will disrupt EO

 

[mukerflap]

Then you have to use COLL which isnt good for sunes

 

[ProStar]

Then you have to use COLL which isnt good for sunes

COLL just isn't as good as CMLL overall since CMLL ignores EO and the M slice, which allows for better algs

 

[GenTheSnail]

Kian has a video on why CMLLEO is bad, and that would extend to influencing EO in the way that you suggest during SB.

 

[u Cube]

Kian has a video on why CMLLEO is bad, and that would extend to influencing EO in the way that you suggest during SB.

It's part of a bigger idea, but it's not meant to be something you do all the time, just if you get a good case you theoretically could ig.

 

[Cubeaddicts 101]

Heya, I've been using the Roux method for exactly a month, my ao100 on 3x3 is sub 55.25 so that's pretty accurate. Is my improvement slow? I have no idea

 

[Etotheipi]

Heya, I've been using the Roux method for exactly a month, my ao100 on 3x3 is sub 55.25 so that's pretty accurate. Is my improvement slow? I have no idea

Thats a perfectly good speed. =) Just keep practicing and it'll go down further.

 

[antonio19kamh3]

Then you have to use COLL which isnt good for sunes

sune coll is good but ok

 

[Deleted member 51471]

Then you have to use COLL which isnt good for sunes

Sune COLL is fine, it's just that the OCLL is so fast it's not worth it in ZZ and CFOP.

 

[HaHaHaHeeHeeHee]

I average around 15-16 when I'm warmed up and i only have gotten 3 sub-15 ao5's but how to get consistent sub-15? My splits are around 3 5 3 4 and I use 2 look cmll. I could also post some of my solves to critique. Pls help

 

[ProStar]

I average around 15-16 when I'm warmed up and i only have gotten 3 sub-15 ao5's but how to get consistent sub-15? My splits are around 3 5 3 4 and I use 2 look cmll. I could also post some of my solves to critique. Pls help

keep improving F2B efficiency, try to plan FB in inspection, and learn CMLL. Example solves would help

 

[CrispyCubing]

I average around 15-16 when I'm warmed up and i only have gotten 3 sub-15 ao5's but how to get consistent sub-15? My splits are around 3 5 3 4 and I use 2 look cmll. I could also post some of my solves to critique. Pls help

You should start learning full CMLL. I think that is the easiest and fastest way to improve at this point. I am averaging around the same as you with roux and my time splits are the same. If you want to we could race each other to full CMLL, I’d be up for that!

 

[HaHaHaHeeHeeHee]

You should start learning full CMLL. I think that is the easiest and fastest way to improve at this point. I am averaging around the same as you with roux and my time splits are the same. If you want to we could race each other to full CMLL, I’d be up for that!

sure man im down

 

[whaffle]

How are you supposed to recognize EOLR? If there's a LR edge in BD, I have to tilt the cube to see it. Should I track it during CMLL? I haven't tried tracking the LR pieces during CMLL yet, as I think CMLL should be a fast step. Also, is it still worth it to be doing FB edges as well as LR edges if I use EOLR? Recognition seems to be a fair bit worse if you use both.

 

[shadowslice e]

How are you supposed to recognize EOLR? If there's a LR edge in BD, I have to tilt the cube to see it. Should I track it during CMLL? I haven't tried tracking the LR pieces during CMLL yet, as I think CMLL should be a fast step. Also, is it still worth it to be doing FB edges as well as LR edges if I use EOLR? Recognition seems to be a fair bit worse if you use both.

Yes, you should track LR during CMLL. You can also work out where the "other" ULUR edge is by omission (so if you can't see it, it must be where you can't see). Incidentally, why do you think tracking would slow down the step? If it's because you think you need to slow down your turning to track, the real trick is learning how your CMLL affect the edges (which also means you can learn alt algs to force nicer cases).

EOBF is used by some cubers though you should only really use it if it gives you some immediate advantage (ie it leads to a shorter solution).

 

[Jam88]

I want to learn roux. Does anyone have a good resource to learn it from?