[Help Thread] 2x2 Discussion

[Randomno]

But if you learn slowly, u dont use them as often in solves. This might not be true for everyone, but this makes me forfet them. (unless u wanna force urself to use adjacent layers and ortegs the ones you dont know)

I'm sure you don't usually spell this badly.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

I'm sure you don't usually spell this badly.

IKR I noticed as posting but my phone keyboard fails on me sometimes so I just quit and posted. I meant to say forget and ortega not forfet and ortegs.

 

[King Mike]

I just got a 2x2 yesterday. I do the corners like a 3x3 and i do COLL and a PLL (Either A perm or Y perm)
How fast can this possibly go?
I've only done 10 solves total (ever) and I got a 9.87 avg with a PB of 7.43.

I will learn CLL, but I'm just wondering

(P.S, if you haven't noticed, I'm solving it like a 3x3 pretty much)

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

I just got a 2x2 yesterday. I do the corners like a 3x3 and i do COLL and a PLL (Either A perm or Y perm)
How fast can this possibly go?
I've only done 10 solves total (ever) and I got a 9.87 avg with a PB of 7.43.

I will learn CLL, but I'm just wondering

(P.S, if you haven't noticed, I'm solving it like a 3x3 pretty much)

1) use Jperm not A perm
2) I can average high 4s low 5s with beginners I think

 

[Randomno]

I just got a 2x2 yesterday. I do the corners like a 3x3 and i do COLL and a PLL (Either A perm or Y perm)
How fast can this possibly go?
I've only done 10 solves total (ever) and I got a 9.87 avg with a PB of 7.43.

I will learn CLL, but I'm just wondering

(P.S, if you haven't noticed, I'm solving it like a 3x3 pretty much)

You mean OCLL, not COLL. It's a stupid name but it's stuck.

 

[CubeWizard23]

i know there are only like 1000 4 move scrambles sooo divide the by 24 (CN and oreintation) and you get about 42, does someone have the solutions generated for these and is it hard to identify them?

 

[Username]

i know there are only like 1000 4 move scrambles sooo divide the by 24 (CN and oreintation) and you get about 42, does someone have the solutions generated for these and is it hard to identify them?

they're usually very easy to recognize with little to no practice, except for a few (like U' R' F2 U')

You can practice them and force yourself to find a 4 move solution you can open cstimer --> 2x2 --> 3-gen and then change scramble length to 4

 

[TDM]

i know there are only like 1000 4 move scrambles sooo divide the by 24 (CN and oreintation) and you get about 42, does someone have the solutions generated for these and is it hard to identify them?

Learn CLL and start to learn to 1-look. Most 4-move scrambles can usually be done as a 3 move layer -> CLL skip with AUF.

(like U' R' F2 U')

U R2 F' R is quite hard to recognise too.

 

[willtri4]

Why do people usually learn CLL before EG-1? It seems to me like EG-1 would be more useful.

 

[cashis]

Why do people usually learn CLL before EG-1? It seems to me like EG-1 would be more useful.

No specific reason, actually, it just tends to be the order people go in.
The ultimate goal should be both EGs and CLL, so it doesn't really matter what order you go in

 

[TDM]

Why do people usually learn CLL before EG-1? It seems to me like EG-1 would be more useful.

Because you probably know a lot of CLL already. I've heard the algs are better too (though I don't know EG-1). You also don't need to worry about ADF.
E: Also you can't skip anything if you force an unsolved layer each solve.

 

[cashis]

How do yall predict AUF for Niklas in CLL?
I can predict most other aufs, but theres no obvious blocks or anything on Niklas.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

How do yall predict AUF for Niklas in CLL?
I can predict most other aufs, but theres no obvious blocks or anything on Niklas.

the diagonal thingy matches the front.

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

the diagonal thingy matches the front.

when the oriented corner is solved there is a U auf

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

when the oriented corner is solved there is a U auf

thats harder. holding red in front yellow top, do:
Setup: L' U R U' L U R' U'
there is a diagonal matching bar with a negative slope on the FUR sticker and UBL sticker (in this case red). Since red is also the colour of the front face, there is no AUF.

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

thats harder. holding red in front yellow top, do:
Setup: L' U R U' L U R' U'
there is a diagonal matching bar with a negative slope on the FUR sticker and UBL sticker (in this case red). Since red is also the colour of the front face, there is no AUF.

eh idc, i got used to it because i look at the oriented corner for all sune/anti sune cases

 

[TDM]

I remember it as the UBR sticker goes to the F face, and you AUF to solve that sticker.

 

[scottishcuber]

I remember it as the UBR sticker goes to the F face, and you AUF to solve that sticker.

i do the same

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

when do people usually start learning EG2?

 

[BrianJ]

I'm basically sub-2, and I haven't learned much of it. I guess you could whenever because lots of the cases are just Anti-CLL, and there aren't too many cases which make you want to learn an actual alg.