ImmolatedMarmoset
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I would go with full PLL. You want 3 look last layer, and PLL is a lot less algorithms. COLL is useful, but is more advanced and is not worth using right away.
Also, if you get an OLL skip you'll have to use PLL anyway.I would go with full PLL. You want 3 look last layer, and PLL is a lot less algorithms. COLL is useful, but is more advanced and is not worth using right away.
PLL, COLL is not worth learning and is barely better, if better, than OLL + PLL since a lot of plls can be executed sub-1.5 with little effortHi,
I'm new to speedcubing, and I have a question. So I know CFOP, with 4-look last layer, IE 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL.
Before I tried CFOP I tried Roux because it was mostly intuitive, and we have something in Roux called CMLL, which is very similar to COLL.
When I started doing CFOP, I realized that CMLL, if it was adapted to CFOP, would be pretty good, for 4-look last layer.
It didn't take much digging for me to learn that there is something like that, and it was called COLL.
Now I'm at a crossroads. Both COLL and full PLL would help improve my times, but I'm not sure which one I should choose.
Any help?
Thanks.
CLL/ELL vs OLL/PLL in terms of alg count:Thanks for the responses. From what I've read, I think I'll go with PLL. I'm still new to speedcubing and algs make my brain hurt lol. It's the lazy road for me I didn't know about CLL and ELL, but even so, they were too many algs to learn, IE ~100 vs 27
I have 22 more OLL's to go before I know full Fridrich. I am wondering in what order should I start introducing the fine techniques? I already do Pieces Stuck in Another Slot and Using Empty Slots intuitively. Should I continue doing these intuitively or should I learn algs for them? When should I introduce multi-slotting and mis-aligned pairs? COLL? VH and maybe ZB? Also, for multi-slotting and mis-aligned pairs is it possible to learn these intuitively and how?
I think, If you finished learning Oll, you should try to improve you're cross and F2L. I recommend learning algs for the cases that took you over 8 moves. You should watch tutorials from J-Perm. I have noticed, that Oll is not everything. My F2l was so bad, but now it is a lot better. Now I am learning VLS and 1. Pair during Inspection.I have 22 more OLL's to go before I know full Fridrich. I am wondering in what order should I start introducing the fine techniques? I already do Pieces Stuck in Another Slot and Using Empty Slots intuitively. Should I continue doing these intuitively or should I learn algs for them? When should I introduce multi-slotting and mis-aligned pairs? COLL? VH and maybe ZB? Also, for multi-slotting and mis-aligned pairs is it possible to learn these intuitively and how?
This was a jokeYou should learn how to one look a 3x3x3, J-Pern just did a really good video about it.
I know. I was continuing it on here.This was a joke
try "advance f2l" or "f2l for oll skip"I have already learned full oll and pll so I don't know what I should try learning next (This is for 3x3)
COLL would be useful, just don't bother with Sune and Anti-Sune sets. Also, WV and other OLS stuff might be fun to learn.I have already learned full oll and pll so I don't know what I should try learning next (This is for 3x3)
COLL is the first set you should learn after you finish OLL and PLL, just make sure you're always spending time on f2l as it is the most important part of your speedsolve.I have already learned full oll and pll so I don't know what I should try learning next (This is for 3x3)
I am just finishing up full oll, and I want to learn coll after that, but beyond that can somebody tell me what cfop subsets there are, what they do, and what order I should learn them in. I have lots of time to learn algs this summer so any help recommending what to learn is appreciated. Thanks!
explore a bit, there's a lot of sub-sets with each their own merritI am just finishing up full oll, and I want to learn coll after that, but beyond that can somebody tell me what cfop subsets there are, what they do, and what order I should learn them in. I have lots of time to learn algs this summer so any help recommending what to learn is appreciated. Thanks!