Tired of Guhongs and Zhanchi's! Other good cubes available?

[vincent80000]

i think you become used to the speed and feel of a cube after a while. My guhong dosen't feel as good as it used to be but i think thats just me. For instance the cube actually feels faster first thing in the morning and feels quite slow later in the day but I don't think that's the cubes fault just the fact i've gotten used to the cube and my hands become too lazy to turn the cube. Maybe use a different cube (regular zhanchi?) for a month or two then come back to the dayans.

That's a good point. I think I should look into that.

 

[izovire]

Tired of Dayan cubes or are you just tired of everyone talking about how good they are?

The debris you find in your cubes is plastic dust (mixed with lube) from normal wear of breaking it in. Having it build up in the cracks is normal and doesn't have a negative effect on the turn quality. It also doesn't matter what type of lube you use, it WILL always absorb dust. Silicone works well as an adhesive.

Please note that other 3x3's will wear out just as fast and still have to be cleaned/lubed just as much. I really enjoyed Type F-II and AV before, so you can try them I suppose. Good luck finding your awesome cube!

 

[vincent80000]

Well, I hope you like it. Or not.. I don't want to make it look bad, because many people think it's a good cube, and it is, but, I just can't get along with it.

 

[vincent80000]

Tired of Dayan cubes or are you just tired of everyone talking about how good they are?

The debris you find in your cubes is plastic dust (mixed with lube) from normal wear of breaking it in. Having it build up in the cracks is normal and doesn't have a negative effect on the turn quality. It also doesn't matter what type of lube you use, it WILL always absorb dust. Silicone works well as an adhesive.

Please note that other 3x3's will wear out just as fast and still have to be cleaned/lubed just as much. I really enjoyed Type F-II and AV before, so you can try them I suppose. Good luck finding your awesome cube!

That seems true. I didn't actually know that until you recently brought it up. Maybe I'll have a second thought of my Dayans... Oh, and I am tired if Dayan cubes and also tired of the people who say how good it is, but, I've actually got pretty good times with it. It's really weird, so I'm sorry if I'm saying stuff that's so untrue.. I mean saying you don't like a Dayan cube is like saying you don't like girls or something..you know. I just wanted to try something new, and something with a different feeling. That's pretty much it. Yeah, and thanks for the luck.

P.S. DAYAN FANS PLEASE DON'T BE MAD!!

 

[chrissyD]

Also im not sure if they use inbuilt obsolescence in cubes which could also explain why they get worse over time.

 

[vincent80000]

Also im not sure if they use inbuilt obsolescence in cubes which could also explain why they get worse over time.

That's a big phrase.

 

[5BLD]

He says that they possibly made it so it becomes bad over time. Intentionally.

 

[vincent80000]

I use a Type C. A white core with black pieces. And black centre caps.
I like it. I find the black and white cubes have very different feelings... My black was was crispy clicky and kept exploding. My white was very much the opposite.
However I have never tried a dayan so I can't compare.

Is the Type C the one you use in your video "Sub-15 Rubik's cube average of 12; Roux method and cool angle ... 14.71 seconds?" If so, I like that cube.

 

[vincent80000]

OHHHHHHH.. I get it.

He says that they possibly made it so it becomes bad over time. Intentionally.

 

[5BLD]

Yes, it is.
It's the black type c and centre caps with a white type c core.

 

[chrissyD]

That's a big phrase.

it's something that occurs in most products. you get a one year warranty for lets say a tv and it breaks exactly around the time the warranty expires. So the company who made it built and designed the product to break after a year (so you buy a shiny new one and they make more money) Could be the same issue with cubes.

 

[5BLD]

Yes. It's the annoying the the companies do. But from their perspective, it's a very good idea indeed. I would certainly do it if I wanted more money.

 

[izovire]

Black plastic wears out faster than white...

We cannot fully eliminate friction that causes wear. But we can sure help it. Some people leave the dust in their cubes (I never clean my V-cubes because of it) because they find that smooth spot. But actually, the more left over dust the better the friction wear is reduced. Then adding lube to an uncleaned cube will make it gummy.

It's quite trivial actually.

 

[5BLD]

Yeah, I left sawdust from modding simply to wear it down.
It seems, the more dirt, the better for breaking in, and the better it will be when you DO clean it out. Which ideally would be a very long time before cleaning.

 

[chrissyD]

yea it's not a bad thing it makes the companys more money to help them make more stuff. It's harsh on the customer but there's no other way around it. the xbox360 is a good example. Im sure most people who have owned an xbox have had more than 1 (i have) That's microsofts stupid way of making money. I think sony however lose money with the ps3 but they make money with the games.

a bit off topic but i did this kind of stuff for gcses and might aswell make use of it

 

[5BLD]

Yeah... I somehow read about it somewhere.

 

[vincent80000]

I think I mad a bad decision buying the Lubix Zhanchi.. I should of got the Puzzle Addictions Zhanchi with the CPM instead.

 

[M4rQu5]

Sure, it loses its ability over time compared to itself.
But it still is better than some/most cubes.

 

[Bapao]

@vincent80000,

if you like the old school store-bought feel, you might want to consider the C-III. The Type C was already mentioned by 5BLD, but I'm not sure which version he has.

The F-III also feels very "old school". I wouldn't recommend it though, it's badly designed and locks in very frustrating ways when you go fast.

If you want a good mix of the DaYan and store-bought feel, I recommend the DaYan I or the MuFang competition cube. Both have a classic feel to them but both are also very usable alternatives to what you have been using to date. My personal favorite of the above is the DaYan I and I would recommend it without reserve.

I do have this distinct feeling that you'll end up going back to your ZC after all of your endeavors though
I love trying out new 3x3x3s and I have all of the newer cubes plus a bunch of old gen cubes. Out of the 26 odd 3x3x3 versions I own, my favorite by a long way is still the LingYun. I'm getting the LingYun 2 prototype soon, hope it is at least as good as the LingYun, but I'm keeping my expectations low

Kind regards,

H.

 

[TheChriskage]

You might wanna go for the Ghost Hand II, It's very speedy, but not that smooth and it locks up a bit.
I got this: http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.Standard_3x3x3_Magic_Cube___Black-41264
This should be the same cube: http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.3...ertip_Dancing_Magic_Cube_2nd_Gen_Black_-29730