Stefan
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Could be, but I doubt it. And it would be unjustified, as that was only part of Cornelius' overall thoughts.
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Wrong. Berlin Open 2012.People are still gonna rank if they get say 2 DNFs, just not in the mo3 ranking. (on an unrelated note: I have never had all successes in a BLD round)
As for competitions, the format wouldn't have to change, it could still remain best of 3. The only difference would be that you could break official mo3 records, which imo is not that bad of an idea because consistence (success-wise) would get acknowledged.
On the other hand, the focus of many competitors might get drawn away from the idea of winning the competition (by getting a good single) to the want to get a better mean of 3, regardless of the ranking in the competition itself. Not sure if that's "in the spirit" of the WCA.
I wouldn't try to get them even if such a ranking were official.You would have more from actually trying to get them.
Sorry to be so late saying this, but thanks - I appreciate it!
IMHO the spirit of the WCA is to have fun. You are allowed to do whatever you want with your official attempts, as long as it complies with the rules and you don't disturb or slow down too much the competition. And look at Clément and Tim: they clearly already focus more on accuracy than on speed (both could be faster if they took more risks).On the other hand, the focus of many competitors might get drawn away from the idea of winning the competition (by getting a good single) to the want to get a better mean of 3, regardless of the ranking in the competition itself. Not sure if that's "in the spirit" of the WCA.
Yes. The goal is simply to make those rankings official, and have another set of NRs, CRs and WR.BLD mo3 is already ranked on the WCA site, so basically what this thread is proposing it to make the rankings more accessible by putting it in the "Rankings" section along with the other official rankings?
(https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/misc/missing_averages/)
Would the mo3s be listed on your WCA profile?Yes. The goal is simply to make those rankings official, and have another set of NRs, CRs and WR.
Of course! It would be just like any other official ranking.Would the mo3s be listed on your WCA profile?
This follows my point of view as well, 3BLD can have ranked official times for the mean of 3, however, the single should be what competitions are ranked by.So far I've competed in 10 competitions, all of them with 3BLD as my primary focus. I currently have a 32.19 single, so I think I have some experience on this matter. I believe that mo3s should be officially ranked. Noah is completely right about getting a fast single at this level is at least partly luck: At home I have gotten a single like 26.xx followed by a 40.xx. Why? Because scrambles can really affect my times by that much.
Recognition should be awarded to people who can 1. consistently get successes under pressure 2. fast times under all different "types" of scrambles. People with some experience in BLD would know what I'm talking about when I say "types". Pushing yourself to get a fast single in comp and staying clear-minded enough to get a mo3 are two different skills in themselves, and by making mo3s official, it helps to differentiate the two.
Of course singles should be still what win competitions, because a 2 minute mean of 3 should not win against someone who got, say, a sub-40 second single. Just some of my thoughts.
That is exactly what the proposal is.This follows my point of view as well, 3BLD can have ranked official times for the mean of 3, however, the single should be what competitions are ranked by.
Then I think it's okay... Otherwise I would say no. The number of DNFs on a competition is too damn high!That is exactly what the proposal is.