Random Cubing Discussion

[Kirjava]

lol I meant affect centres.

 

[ben1996123]

3x3 no algs method I came up with a while ago. Just commutators but whatever.

Intuitive cross and 3/4 2nd layer edges
keyhole for 3/4 first layer corners (D moves and R U(') R')
Last F2L edge
Commutators A perm for last first layer corner (something like z x R' D R U' R' D' R U2 R' D R U' R' D' R U')
OELL (z2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' (some D move) inverse, some D move')
OCLL (z' sexymove n stuff)
PCLL (a perm)
PELL (R' E R n stuff)

Example:

Scramble: L U L' U R2 U' B R' L' B2 R2 D2 U2 R2 B' L' B U L' D U2 R2 U2 R' D2
Cross: U B' M x' D2 L' D2 L D2
Edges: L U' L' R' U R F U2 F'
Corners: D' [R U R' U']3 D2 U' [R U R' U']3 D' R U' R' D2 F' U' F D2
Last edge: U' F' U' F (So I can do an example for the corner)
Last corner: U' z x R' D' R U' R' D R U2 R' D' R U' R' D R z'
OELL: x2 y' M' U2 M U M' U' M D2 M' U M U' M' U2 M z2
OCLL: z' [[U' R' U R]2 L]3 z
PCLL: R' D R U2 R' D' R U R' D R U R' D' R
PELL: R' E R U R' E' R U' R' E R U' R' E' R U' R' E R U R' E' R U

 

[Cubenovice]

3x3 no algs method I came up with a while ago. Just commutators but whatever.

Intuitive cross and 3/4 2nd layer edges
keyhole for 3/4 first layer corners (D moves and R U(') R')
Last F2L edge
Commutators A perm for last first layer corner (something like z x R' D R U' R' D' R U2 R' D R U' R' D' R U')
OELL (z2 M' U2 M U M' U' M' (some D move) inverse, some D move')
OCLL (z' sexymove n stuff)
PCLL (a perm)
PELL (R' E R n stuff)

Example:

Scramble: L U L' U R2 U' B R' L' B2 R2 D2 U2 R2 B' L' B U L' D U2 R2 U2 R' D2
Cross: U B' M x' D2 L' D2 L D2
Edges: L U' L' R' U R F U2 F'
Corners: D' [R U R' U']3 D2 U' [R U R' U']3 D' R U' R' D2 F' U' F D2
Last edge: U' F' U' F (So I can do an example for the corner)
Last corner: U' z x R' D' R U' R' D R U2 R' D' R U' R' D R z'
OELL: x2 y' M' U2 M U M' U' M D2 M' U M U' M' U2 M z2
OCLL: z' [[U' R' U R]2 L]3 z
PCLL: R' D R U2 R' D' R U R' D R U R' D' R
PELL: R' E R U R' E' R U' R' E R U' R' E' R U' R' E R U R' E' R U

The constant switching between edges and corners makes me dizzy...

 

[ilikecubing]

An Nb perm i found myself,it might have been discussed before,not sure about that so posted it.

R' U' R U' (L U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R) U R' U R

also L' U' L U (L U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R) U' L' U L

similar to R U R' U (J perm) U' R U' R' Na perm

 

[Kirjava]

lol wouldn't just doing BH give a lower movecount?

 

[StachuK1992]

y = -(10 (683 x-12100))/(x-100), x != 100 (percent)
x is percentage, and y is days.

x ~= 17.716 right now
I've been cubing for about 17.716% of my life.

And its inverse: y = (100 (x+1210))/(x+6830)
where x is the number of days from now, and y is percentage

On, August 18, 2011, I will have been cubing for 1/5 of my life. (195 days from now)

Find yours.

 

[Kirjava]

32%

 

[ben1996123]

lol wouldn't just doing BH give a lower movecount?

Probably, but isn't BH lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of algs?

 

[Kirjava]

BH is 0 algs.

 

[ben1996123]

BH is 0 algs.

0.o....

So what is the method with all of the 3 cycles and like, 600 algs then?

 

[Yes We Can!]

0.o....

So what is the method with all of the 3 cycles and like, 600 algs then?

comms.

 

[qqwref]

First one doesn't seem to work

Sorry, should be: x' R U' R u2 L' U M' x' U' R u2 L' U L R2 x



PS: Also, enough about not calling commutators algs even when how to use them is nontrivial, because plenty of decent algs can be written as (non-obvious) commutators:
H = [M2 U, M2 U']
U = [F2 U2 F2, F2 U M' U' F2]
Z = [M2 U' M' U2 M U M2, M2 U' M2 U M2]
A = [R' F R, R2 B2 R2]
E = x[R U' R', D][R U R', D]
G = [R2 u R' U b, b' R' b]
J = [R' U R, R' L' d2 L R]
N = [L U' R L' U R', R U' L d2 L' U R']
too lazy to try to do the rest lol
EDIT:
T = [l, F R' F'][F R U' R', U']
Y = [U, F R U' R'][l, F R' F']

 

[ben1996123]

comms.

...is it faster than BH?

 

[Yes We Can!]

...is it faster than BH?

BH = Comms (with fixed buffer afaik)

If you don't understand comms, have fun learning 600 algs. Otherwise it's just intuitive.

 

[Cubenovice]

BH = Comms

Ich denke Lolben ist angewiesen...

 

[qqwref]

I kinda want to keep going now
V = [L U' R' U L', U'] [U R', U2]
R = [R U2 R' U2 R', R U R' F']
F = [R', U] [R2 F' R2, R2 U' R2] [R, R2 F R2]
comms~

 

[irontwig]

Random 10 move LL alg I learned yesterday: R:[B2 D B',U]

 

[aronpm]

BH = Comms (with fixed buffer afaik)

If you don't understand comms, have fun learning 600 algs. Otherwise it's just intuitive.

It was quite fun, thank you

And actually it's 378+440=818 "algs".

Yes, I do understand comms, I just wanted to learn each case as an alg.

 

[Yes We Can!]

Ich denke Lolben ist angewiesen...

I don't really understand if you are lolben-ing me or lolben

Aron: oright, I was just thinking about corners and just assumed Ben's number was right.
Did you really learn it ALL by heart without understanding the logic behind it?

 

[qqwref]

This is a really ugly commutator for the standard 2gen U perm, is there a nicer one?
[R2 U R U D' z', R U' R']