Random Cubing Discussion

[Robert-Y]

How about a PLL execution UWR list for each PLL on this forum? I'd like to see where I would be on this list since my PLLs are "slow" compared to many other people. However I'm not sure if they are "slow" compared to other people during solves. I think videos would be nice and also if we post our algorithms too...

We could also have a PLL execution UWR list for OH...

 

[theace]

how slow are your plls? My left handed g perms last 4 seconds.

 

[irontwig]

You don't need to do any g-perms with your left hand, just mirror front to back instead of right to left or however one might explain it.

 

[Robert-Y]

It's true that you don't need to but it's helpful in a solve in order to prevent unnecessary AUFs and y turns, to save a bit of time.

 

[qqwref]

Doesn't save any time if your left-handed algs are way slower

 

[theace]

I need better:

G Perms, E Perms, F Perms and V Perms

 

[a small kitten]

Me too.

 

[xXzaKerXx]

Try this F perm: R U R' U' R' U R U2 R' L' U R U' L U' R U' R'

Weston and Lofty both use this for OH.

 

[Kirjava]

02:57:13 <+Nibblr> 3x3 Scramble #13566: L2 B2 L' F2 L' F' L' D' L D F2 B U2 F' R' D2 F L2 B D' R2 F2 U' L2 F2
02:58:06 <+Kirjava> D'FEM2F
02:58:19 <+RobertY> wait
02:58:20 <+Kirjava> E goes teh same way as D
02:58:27 <+RobertY> should I start now?
02:58:33 <+Kirjava> yah
02:58:39 <+RobertY> ,start
02:58:53 <+Kirjava> x'y'
02:59:00 <+Kirjava> U2R'U2
02:59:06 <+Venim> back
02:59:09 <+Kirjava> R'U
02:59:12 <+Kirjava> r'
02:59:15 <+Kirjava> UR
02:59:21 <+statue> j`ey: enh
02:59:22 <+Kirjava> U
02:59:25 <+Kirjava> antisune
02:59:31 <+Kirjava> t perm
02:59:34 <+statue> that's essentially what I did :/
02:59:42 <+Kirjava> MUM'U2
02:59:47 <+Kirjava> MUM'
02:59:58 <+Kirjava> U2M'U2MU
03:00:06 <+Kirjava> F2MF2M' solved
03:00:12 <+RobertY> ,stop
03:00:13 <+Nibblr> Time for RobertY: 1:32.58
03:00:14 <+RobertY> yes
03:00:15 <+RobertY> !
03:00:17 <+Kirjava> haha
03:00:17 <+RobertY> solved
03:00:18 <+RobertY>
03:00:18 <+Kirjava> awesome

IRC teamsolving

 

[EVH]

I need better:

G Perms, E Perms, F Perms and V Perms

F Perm(with block in the back): R' U2 R' d' R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R U' F

Do you use the Rowe Hessler E Perm?

 

[Kenneth]

2x2x2 CLL

[10:51] <Kenta> Z' U2 R' U' R2 U' R' U' R U' R' [U']

[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.94 Kenta
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.91
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.90
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.80

The alg is like, you start over, solve the two unsolved by doing z', then you solve the other two to FL, first one directly, second inserting Antisune and then you get a LL-skip

Who said you cannot swap two corners using 2g???

 

[qqwref]

lol, nice find

It was known we could do that case 2gen because of z' (R' U')*7.5, but that algorithm is pretty fast.

 

[joey]

I actually really like Kenneth's alg.

 

[Robert-Y]

2x2x2 CLL
[10:51] <Kenta> Z' U2 R' U' R2 U' R' U' R U' R' [U']

...

The alg is like, you start over, solve the two unsolved by doing z', then you solve the other two to FL, first one directly, second inserting Antisune and then you get a LL-skip

Nice find and thanks! It makes it so much easier to remember this alg

 

[Kenneth]

mmm, I always try to dissect the algs to knowned moves, to make them "intuitive" and easy to remember.

@ qq: yes, I think I posted about it earlier, a year a go or so. But it is cheating, for real it is a triple 2-cycle.

@ Joey: it's hard to not like it, even I can do it fast! Just wait until Rowe gets his hands on it, he will probably sub 0.5 it

 

[riffz]

2x2x2 CLL

[10:51] <Kenta> Z' U2 R' U' R2 U' R' U' R U' R' [U']

I love this alg.

 

[Ville Seppänen]

2x2x2 CLL

[10:51] <Kenta> Z' U2 R' U' R2 U' R' U' R U' R' [U']

[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.94 Kenta
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.91
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.90
[11:07] <SimonWestlund> 0.80

The alg is like, you start over, solve the two unsolved by doing z', then you solve the other two to FL, first one directly, second inserting Antisune and then you get a LL-skip

Who said you cannot swap two corners using 2g???

I've used this for ages. I think I even showed that alg to you in some finnish competition.

 

[ariasamie]

(just if you don't know) www.postsecret.com is where some people post their secrets anonymously.
this one is one of the funniest confessions I saw today!

Spoiler

 

[qqwref]

Here's a list of the top 10 people in 3BLD single + 3speed average.

Alexander Yu                       56.54
Ville Seppänen                     57.29
Gabriel Alejandro Orozco Casillas  57.66
Tse-Kan Lin                        59.31
Yuhui Xu                         1:00.31
Rowe Hessler                     1:02.66
Yumu Tabuchi                     1:05.19
Chester Lian                     1:08.28
Timothy Sun                      1:08.87
Muhammad Iril Khairul Anam       1:09.09

 

[Kenneth]

I've used this for ages. I think I even showed that alg to you in some finnish competition.

Mabye, but I never remember algs I did not find myself =)

I had one other 2g that I used before but it was different and not this easy and fast.

All Optimal RU algs for the case:

Spoiler

For all algs do z' first.

URUR'URUR2URU2 (11,13)
URUR2URU2RURU' (11,13)
URUR2UR2URUR2U2 (11,15)
URUR2U2RURU2RU2 (11,15)
URU'RURU2RUR2U (11,13)
URU'R2U2R'URU2RU2 (11,15)
URU2RURU'RURU2 (11,13)
URU2RUR2URUR'U (11,13)
URU2RU2RURU2R2U (11,15)
URU2RU2RUR'U2R2U' (11,15)
URU2R2URUR2UR2U (11,15)
UR'URUR2URU2RU (11,13)
UR'U'R'U2R'U'R2U'R'U' (11,13)
UR'U'R2U'R2U'R'UR2U2 (11,15)
UR'U2R2U'RUR2UR2U (11,15)
UR2URUR'URUR2U (11,13)
UR2URUR2U2RURU2 (11,15)
UR2URU'R2U2R'URU2 (11,15)
UR2URU2RURU'RU (11,13)
UR2UR2URUR2U2RU (11,15)
UR2UR2URU'R2U2R'U (11,15)
UR2U2RURU2RU2RU (11,15)
UR2U2RU'R'U2R'U2R'U' (11,15)
RURU'RURU2RUR2 (11,13)
RURU2RUR2URUR' (11,13)
RURU2RU2RURU2R2 (11,15)
RURU2R2URUR2UR2 (11,15)
RUR'URUR2URU2R (11,13)
RUR'U2R2U'RUR2UR2 (11,15)
RUR2URUR'URUR2 (11,13)
RUR2URU2RURU'R (11,13)
RUR2UR2URUR2U2R (11,15)
RUR2UR2URU'R2U2R' (11,15)
RUR2U2RURU2RU2R (11,15)
RU'RURU2RUR2UR (11,13)
RU'R'U'R2U'R'U2R'U'R' (11,13)
RU'R'U2R'U2R'U'RU2R2 (11,15)
RU'R2U2R'URU2RU2R (11,15)
RU2RURU'RURU2R (11,13)
RU2RURU2R2URUR2 (11,15)
RU2RUR'U2R2U'RUR2 (11,15)
RU2RUR2URUR'UR (11,13)
RU2RU2RURU2R2UR (11,15)
RU2RU2RUR'U2R2U'R (11,15)
RU2R2URUR2UR2UR (11,15)
RU2R2UR'U'R2U'R2U'R' (11,15)
U'RURU2RUR2URU (11,13)
U'RUR2UR2URU'R2U2 (11,15)
U'RU'R'U'R2U'R'U2R'U' (11,13)
U'RU2R2UR'U'R2U'R2U' (11,15)
U'R'UR'U'R'U2R'U'R2U' (11,13)
U'R'UR2U2RU'R'U2R'U2 (11,15)
U'R'U'RU'R'U'R2U'R'U2 (11,13)
U'R'U'R2U'R'U2R'U'R'U (11,13)
U'R'U'R2U'R2U'R'U'R2U2 (11,15)
U'R'U'R2U2R'U'R'U2R'U2 (11,15)
U'R'U2R'U'R'UR'U'R'U2 (11,13)
U'R'U2R'U'R2U'R'U'RU' (11,13)
U'R'U2R'U2R'U'RU2R2U (11,15)
U'R'U2R'U2R'U'R'U2R2U' (11,15)
U'R'U2R2U'R'U'R2U'R2U' (11,15)
U'R2U'R'UR2U2RU'R'U2 (11,15)
U'R2U'R'U'RU'R'U'R2U' (11,13)
U'R2U'R'U'R2U2R'U'R'U2 (11,15)
U'R2U'R'U2R'U'R'UR'U' (11,13)
U'R2U'R2U'R'UR2U2RU' (11,15)
U'R2U'R2U'R'U'R2U2R'U' (11,15)
U'R2U2R'URU2RU2RU (11,15)
U'R2U2R'U'R'U2R'U2R'U' (11,15)
R'URUR2URU2RUR (11,13)
R'URU2RU2RUR'U2R2 (11,15)
R'UR'U'R'U2R'U'R2U'R' (11,13)
R'UR2U2RU'R'U2R'U2R' (11,15)
R'U'RU'R'U'R2U'R'U2R' (11,13)
R'U'RU2R2UR'U'R2U'R2 (11,15)
R'U'R'UR'U'R'U2R'U'R2 (11,13)
R'U'R'U2R'U'R2U'R'U'R (11,13)
R'U'R'U2R'U2R'U'R'U2R2 (11,15)
R'U'R'U2R2U'R'U'R2U'R2 (11,15)
R'U'R2U'R'U'RU'R'U'R2 (11,13)
R'U'R2U'R'U2R'U'R'UR' (11,13)
R'U'R2U'R2U'R'UR2U2R (11,15)
R'U'R2U'R2U'R'U'R2U2R' (11,15)
R'U'R2U2R'U'R'U2R'U2R' (11,15)
R'U2R'U'RU2R2UR'U'R2 (11,15)
R'U2R'U'R'UR'U'R'U2R' (11,13)
R'U2R'U'R'U2R2U'R'U'R2 (11,15)
R'U2R'U'R2U'R'U'RU'R' (11,13)
R'U2R'U2R'U'RU2R2UR' (11,15)
R'U2R'U2R'U'R'U2R2U'R' (11,15)
R'U2R2U'RUR2UR2UR (11,15)
R'U2R2U'R'U'R2U'R2U'R' (11,15)
U2RURU'RURU2RU (11,13)
U2RURU2RU2RURU2 (11,15)
U2RURU2R2URUR2U (11,15)
U2RUR'U2R2U'RUR2U (11,15)
U2RUR2URUR'URU (11,13)
U2RU'R'U2R'U2R'U'RU2 (11,15)
U2RU2RURU2R2URU (11,15)
U2RU2RUR'U2R2U'RU (11,15)
U2R'URU2RU2RUR'U2 (11,15)
U2R'U'RU2R2UR'U'R2U' (11,15)
U2R'U'R'UR'U'R'U2R'U' (11,13)
U2R'U'R'U2R'U2R'U'R'U2 (11,15)
U2R'U'R'U2R2U'R'U'R2U' (11,15)
U2R'U'R2U'R'U'RU'R'U' (11,13)
U2R'U2R'U'RU2R2UR'U' (11,15)
U2R'U2R'U'R'U2R2U'R'U' (11,15)
U2R2URUR2UR2URU (11,15)
U2R2UR'U'R2U'R2U'R'U (11,15)
U2R2U'RUR2UR2URU' (11,15)
U2R2U'R'U'R2U'R2U'R'U' (11,15)
R2URUR'URUR2UR (11,13)
R2URUR2UR2URUR2 (11,15)
R2URUR2U2RURU2R (11,15)
R2URU'R2U2R'URU2R (11,15)
R2URU2RURU'RUR (11,13)
R2UR'U'R2U'R2U'R'UR2 (11,15)
R2UR2URUR2U2RUR (11,15)
R2UR2URU'R2U2R'UR (11,15)
R2U'RUR2UR2URU'R2 (11,15)
R2U'R'UR2U2RU'R'U2R' (11,15)
R2U'R'U'RU'R'U'R2U'R' (11,13)
R2U'R'U'R2U'R2U'R'U'R2 (11,15)
R2U'R'U'R2U2R'U'R'U2R' (11,15)
R2U'R'U2R'U'R'UR'U'R' (11,13)
R2U'R2U'R'UR2U2RU'R' (11,15)
R2U'R2U'R'U'R2U2R'U'R' (11,15)
R2U2RURU2RU2RUR (11,15)
R2U2RU'R'U2R'U2R'U'R (11,15)
R2U2R'URU2RU2RUR' (11,15)
R2U2R'U'R'U2R'U2R'U'R' (11,15)