Random Cubing Discussion

[obelisk477]

Probably just Snyder exaggerating stuff again but I've had my curiosity aroused if anyone knows anything about Snyder3 and if it had any legitimate existence even if not to the amount claimed. I did half an hours digging and found nothing so in guessing not but if anyone knows anything.

Well idk about Snyder3, but as a side note I really only just now looked at what snyder method was. To me it's seems like:

Snyder Method is to CFOP as
ZZ-CT is to ZZ

 

[shadowslice e]

Well idk about Snyder3, but as a side note I really only just now looked at what snyder method was. To me it's seems like:

Snyder Method is to CFOP as
ZZ-CT is to ZZ

Yeah that's Snyder2 and it sort of is like FreeF2L/Almost tripod/heise. It's good but not as good as his hype I don't think.

 

[obelisk477]

How would sum of ranks be affected if feet was dropped as an official event?

 

[Daniel Lin]

How would sum of ranks be affected if feet was dropped as an official event?

Feliks would definitely be #1 for both single and average

 

[1973486]

Feliks would definitely be #1 for both single and average

Not for single.

 

[Cale S]

interesting sequence of moves I found that does nothing:

D2 B' D2 F B' L2 B L2 B F'

 

[guysensei1]

interesting sequence of moves I found that does nothing:

D2 B' D2 F B' L2 B L2 B F'

[D2 B' D2;S'] ?
EDIT: which does nothing because D2 B' D2 does not affect the S slice

 

[Cale S]

[D2 B' D2;S'] ?
EDIT: which does nothing because D2 B' D2 does not affect the S slice

wow how did I not see that

I thought it had something to do with the slice moves

 

[guysensei1]

wow how did I not see that

I thought it had something to do with the slice moves

How'd you find it anyway?

 

[Cale S]

How'd you find it anyway?

it's actually really weird and involves spoilers for the Weekly FMC

Spoiler

L D U2 F' B' U' R' B R' F2 U L F B2 D2 U F' B' U F2

first I found a 7 move 2x2x3 like this:

D L B // roux block
F' D2 B D2 // 2x2x3

then later I found a 5 move 2x2x3:

D L' B L2 B

I noticed the cases I got were similar, so I tried doing the inverse of the first and then doing the second and saw it was only off by an F', so D L' B L2 B F' is equivalent to D L B F' D2 B D2

removing the D at the beginning means L' B L2 B F' is equivalent to L B F' D2 B D2
then you can add L' to the beginning of both and get L2 B L2 B F' is equivalent to B F' D2 B D2

so if you do the first one and then the inverse of the second you get an alg that does nothing: L2 B L2 B F' D2 B' D2 F B'

 

[guysensei1]

What would happen if in an official comp, some guy did random moves which happened to be the optimal solution of that scramble and he got sub-4.90?

Or if during BLD some guy just puts on the blindfold immediately and does random moves and somehow gets really lucky and its sub-WR?

 

[Umm Roux?]

1/43 quintillion probability of that occurring, it would be very likely that the cube was misscrambled.

 

[guysensei1]

1/43 quintillion probability of that occurring, it would be very likely that the cube was misscrambled.

I know the odds are unlikely, but it's nonzero. So let's say it was found that the scramble was correct and they could not find evidence of cheating, new WR or 'throw away because too lucky?'

 

[Umm Roux?]

I know the odds are unlikely, but it's nonzero. So let's say it was found that the scramble was correct and they could not find evidence of cheating, new WR or 'throw away because too lucky?'

Then it will most likely stand as the world record unless the cuber voluntarily gives it up. Or “The competitor found the scramble somehow”

 

[Daniel Lin]

I know the odds are unlikely, but it's nonzero. So let's say it was found that the scramble was correct and they could not find evidence of cheating, new WR or 'throw away because too lucky?'

I don't think anyone would believe the WR guy, but I guess they'd have to accept it unless there's evidence he cheated

 

[turtwig]

I know the odds are unlikely, but it's nonzero. So let's say it was found that the scramble was correct and they could not find evidence of cheating, new WR or 'throw away because too lucky?'

But if he did random moves than he doesn't know how to solve it. In the last comp I went to there was a kid who did the 'solve a face until it's solved' for 2x2. He got a 3 minute average but a 10s single and I heard that they were debating whether or not he should be disqualified as his method is very sketchy.
Hard to say, there would probably be a lot of debate. If the competitor doesn't actually know how to solve it I guess they could DNF it because he would be expecting a DNF.
A1c) A competitor participating in an event must be able to fulfil the event's requirements (e.g. know how to solve the puzzle). A competitor must not compete with expectation of a DNF result or an intentionally poor result.
If he did know how to solve it, but chose to do random moves, it might fall under also fall under this rule.

 

[Daniel Lin]

When is the Moyu Magnetic Skewb coming out??

 

[Torch]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/competitions/Wirewood22016/results/all#epyram

Now that's what I call Triangular Francisco!

 

[TDM]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/competitions/Wirewood22016/results/all#epyram

Now that's what I call Triangular Francisco!

Not only were there three Franciscos, but it was also on a puzzle with triangular faces!

 

[Torch]

Not only were there three Franciscos, but it was also on a puzzle with triangular faces!

There's an illuminati joke in here somewhere, but I'm not going make it.