Random Cubing Discussion

[DavidWoner]

Double layer turn and double turn are not the same thing.

 

[y235]

In the last few days i played around with the idea of reducing a 3x3 into a floppy cube (which is actually a variation of columns method).
The method i came up with is that:

1.solve F2L-cross and treat opposite colors as the same color with the following restrictions:
a. the number of D stickers in D face should be even.
b. if the number of D stickers in D face is 2, they must be adjacent to each other

2. CLL

3. solve edges columns (2 edges and a center from the same color):
3a. solve one edge column - using things like U M U' M', and put it between the correct corner columns.
3b. solve another one without destroying the first one - just put the solved one on L/R and do S to preserve it.
3c. last 2 columns - there are some algs here:
UF,UR switch and flip - R F U' D R2 U D' F R'
UR UF switch and DF DR switch - U' F2 R2 F2 U2 R2 F2 R2 U'
(i had more but i lost them)

4. solve as a floppy cube

 

[irontwig]

lolmetaandacronyms:
ALF: Adjacent Layers First (LBL, CFOP, Petrus, etc...)
OLAF: Opposite LAyers First (Roux, CF, Waterman, etc...)

 

[JackJ]

Nub belt I came up with a few years back, used to think it had potential.

http://alg.garron.us/?alg=R_U-_F_R-..._R2_U_B-_D2_L2_F_B2_U-_B2_L-_B2_D2_F_R-_B-_U-

57 moves if I counted correctly.

 

[whauk]

has anyone solved a cube in his mouth so far?
a friend today showed me the she can make turns on a cube (by using teeth and toungue somehow)...

as she won't learn blind i think a mirror will work pretty well. i hope she will succeed... (and i will film it of course)

 

[Phlippieskezer]

K4 as a beginner method

So, I've been considering teaching a nub to cubing a beginner method, and actually thought doing something like K4 might not be a bad idea.
You have some basic blockbuilding in the start in the form of a Rouxblock, but you still have a smooth LBL kind of a solve. Might want to do LL a bit differently, though. Thoughts? Anybody done this before?

- this is on a 3x3x3, of course

 

[qqwref]

It's certainly a legit way to teach a beginner the middle edges in a LBL solution. I don't think anything else from K4 would be applicable to a beginner solution, though.

 

[MostEd]

So, I've been considering teaching a nub to cubing a beginner method, and actually thought doing something like K4 might not be a bad idea.
You have some basic blockbuilding in the start in the form of a Rouxblock, but you still have a smooth LBL kind of a solve. Might want to do LL a bit differently, though. Thoughts? Anybody done this before?

- this is on a 3x3x3, of course

Its a cool thing... i tried, but hey, i solved like that, but i used 2look ell and


man it could be a seperate method for kir's 10sub 10

 

[Cubenovice]

a friend today showed me the she can make turns on a cube (by using teeth and toungue somehow)...

I think she is trying to tell you something

 

[DaveyCow]

has anyone solved a cube in his mouth so far?

that's just silly

 

[Kirjava]

So, I've been considering teaching a nub to cubing a beginner method, and actually thought doing something like K4 might not be a bad idea.
You have some basic blockbuilding in the start in the form of a Rouxblock, but you still have a smooth LBL kind of a solve. Might want to do LL a bit differently, though. Thoughts? Anybody done this before?

- this is on a 3x3x3, of course

I do this when I do LBL. You can see it in my 20 methods video.

 

[Escher]

has anyone solved a cube in his mouth so far?

No but I got pretty good at doing it one-handed.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

I do this when I do LBL. You can see it in my 20 methods video.

Oh, neat. I didn't even notice that was really K4 (until now, obviously).
But do you think this would be viable as a beginner method? I figure having some blockbuilding in there so that they have a fair feel for the cube off the get-go, but still keeping it simple is important.

 

[Kirjava]

I think the F3L technique for F2L might be a bit too compicated for beginners. Dan wanted to teach some poeple like that but I don't know if he ever got around to it.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

I think the F3L technique for F2L might be a bit too compicated for beginners.

Really? I figured that would be fairly simple to teach, even if you just teach one of the algs and tell them to invert it, and do rotations (it's being treated as a beginner method, so those really shouldn't hurt).
Do you think a complete nub will be able to grasp solving the 3x2x1 block (with blockbuilding), though?

PS: I might end up trying this tomorrow.

 

[Kirjava]

Really? I figured that would be fairly simple to teach, even if you just teach one of the algs and tell them to invert it, and do rotations (it's being treated as a beginner method, so those really shouldn't hurt).

I was talking about the F3L technique, so no rotations.

The thing you just described is normal LBL

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

Moar stuff. Didn't get any feedback from the last one, maybe this time people will give me some? This one has me failing more in it because I'm tired, so should be funny. I dunno, I've not actually watched it back .

 

[Hershey]

Moar stuff. Didn't get any feedback from the last one, maybe this time people will give me some? This one has me failing more in it because I'm tired, so should be funny. I dunno, I've not actually watched it back .

Interesting G perms!

 

[Robert-Y]

 

[qqwref]

<M,U> supercube-safe U perm:

(M' U M) U (M' U2 M) U (M' U M) U2


PS: Interesting idea, Robert - combining the pair and the 2x1 block of centers does seem to allow pretty much everything else to be put together without disturbing the cross. It seems like a pretty good variant for Yau.